hi this is Charles Hoskinson broadcasting live from warm sunny Colorado it's about negative seven outside snow on the roads ice everywhere and we just survived a big blizzard and of course we enjoyed our wonderful exciting super Happy Thanksgiving those of you who are Americans or our Canadian brethren a happy Thanksgiving to all of you even though the Canadians did have it last month we still less say that you get to experience two of them so I had a great Thanksgiving parents drove on down they managed to work their way through a blizzard but they got there nonetheless six-hour drive from Gillette I and we had a nice overcooked turkey and some jell-o salad all the other things you come to expect and love for for Thanksgiving again I very rarely watched football these days having a long time but I did have a lot of fun watching the Cowboys game that was good experience okay so on to business on two things that we got to take care of we had the snapshot today on the 29th it was a very successful snapshot not much fanfare it just pick a block pick a slot pick a pick an epic and Bing it's out so next week December 5th I believe we're gonna have a big data dump and basically that's gonna be all the things you need to know to be able to effectively use the test net as well as the economic parameters so the rate of return all of these other things for participation they will be broadcast so we've been talking to Donnell and Tim and we've been working real hard with the content team and we're trying to get things in a very accessible way and also localize them for different languages like Korean Japanese so expect that at the end of next week I'm pretty excited about it you guys are excited about it with our current development velocity everything should be put together roughly around the 6 but releasing software on Friday is a bad deal because if we do anything wrong well then people don't get a weekend so what we're going to do is just have the team in standby do a little bit more polishing and release it that following Monday so we should be releasing the incentivize test that December 9th so this is totally new software it's based on Magana version 8r c1 was just released yesterday and will keep patching and cleaning things up and adding new things to it but basically you'll download a new client from a test net website you'll restore your wallet just like you did with the balance check and then happy delegation happy staking we'll also have detailed instructions on how to run a state pool if you want to do that what's required for this and we should have other releases like the Explorer the state pool dashboard and so forth we'll have a complete list of all of the releases that are coming out on December 5th they're not to be outdone the Haskell side is doing some good work we're pretty excited about it they just replace the relay nodes and we'll be able to replace the core nodes as soon as we do the Oh PFT heart Fork we haven't set a date for that quite yet because we had to build a lot of infrastructure for the exchanges for it but then we're also having some discussions of an integration with the Haskell wallet back end with the Haskell node we did the rus client first and now we have to do the Haskell side but the major milestone they have is they just released their paper and currently they're developing experiences and what they learned from using formal methods the second thing is that we switched to a two-week release cycle for the Haskell node so we should have our first major release next week and every two weeks thereafter probably skipping Christmas will have a will have some form of release and we're just marching that software towards Shelly readiness it's also undergoing a security audit route 9b is chipping away at it as they are other repos and things are moving along pretty well weekly releases on the wallet back-end bi-weekly releases on the Haskell node Jormungandr does about two to three releases per week and at some point we're going to do a big documentation surgeon clean all this stuff up replace Cardinal Docs with something worthwhile so thank you guys so much for for your patience and we're at the end of the road here you know with the release of the incentivize test net in many ways that's Shelly and that's exactly what we expect you know it's it's got peer-to-peer networking we have worse Genesis working we have state pools we have done Gatien we have GUI that enables these types of things deployment scripts all these kinds of things that you come to expect for it and it's just a great opportunity for people to build up their stake pools fill up their reputation brand and for us all to have a really frank discussion about economic parameters user experience and allow us to make all that fine tuning as we march towards the release of shelly on the main net furthermore we've deserialized a lot of our infrastructure and by the end of the year will be completely decentralized on our side and January if we're on schedule for that won't DC relies you guys which means that 100% of code is now I which cake code high quality code formal methods code security auditing code it's really exciting you know it's two years of work to get there a lot of very detailed thought and I'm really proud of that team and I'm really proud of all the teams they've come together we had to learn how to be a great software company or a great research company in fact tomorrow I get the Hydra protocol and I get to hand that to rob coen and he gets to play around with it for a month or two to build a prototype and we write wonderful papers all the time there's a lot of great papers coming but to be a great engineering company and a great science company not many people do that and to keep our principles along the way has been just a humbling experience there's been a lot of naysayers a lot of people have criticized us they were too slow we don't know what we're doing we can't do it never achieve it but I've never had any doubts and a lot of our community have never had any doubts so thank each and every one of you for your passion your faith that each and every one of you for just sticking with it throughout all these these hard months in these hard years and really this is how you build a cryptocurrency and it's so much fun we now get to focus on telling the story I went to Ireland on my way back from Switzerland and we met with McCann they're a major marketing firm they work with Microsoft and coca-cola you know all these other big brands and we just got to tell the story of car tahno and now they're gonna start talking to the Ambassador as all the product managers and we're getting ready for a major brand reef in 2020 and a huge marketing surge in 2020 because now all these things are coming online it's about time to tell the world why these things are great and why these things took so long to build and what's so magical about them and why we feel we're the best cryptocurrency in the planet and to go for number one I am not satisfied with Cardinal being at the back of the pack or us also being an experimental project we built Cardno to be a world financial operating system it's about damn time it gets that kind of usage so ideally if what we've done is right we should have a billion users so let's go find them let's go do that and I'm real excited about it as for our critics well they can just watch us win and then they can explain to the world why they got it wrong later like Paul Krugman had to with the internet so who cares about them there are also ramps now as for you guys I really do enjoy your questions and comments and concerns so let's let's get to about hey Rick what's up to you I got to come back on the car down effect as well you guys did such a great job we have a lot of fun there by the way you will be able to restore your ROI wallets in the incentivize test net Cardno debtless node we are working on that functionality right now she'd be available next week and how many pounds have I lost from my all-time high was 241 pounds and that was up from 185 it was amazing how much weight I gained being an entrepreneur and I'm down to 212 and my plan is to be under 200 by the end of the year I have all the tools there I have a great team of people working with me I work out six days a week about two hours a day it's a mixture of Pilates yoga cardio and weight training and I also have private chef that helps me with the meals and we are chipping away at it I even took a food sensitivity test so it's amazing what you can do with science I've managed to my metabolism burn 92% fat eight percent carbohydrate for my latest passive metabolic assessment and things are moving in the right direction nutrition is pretty good too and yep wim hof jogs went went for one this morning it was cold can't a blue belt in jujitsu could you imagine the press actually our director of engineering Bruno Paleo does Brazilian jiu-jitsu he's a badass it's the nice guy do you have a favorite Linux distribution for running a full node I'm a Debian fan currently running Ubuntu right now broadcasting live from Ubuntu I really a lot of respect for that team hashtag winning that's what we do and Saturn Network the satyr guys have always always been nice to us and I love them big shout out to them and I think there's some of the best guys in crypto Saturn down for the win if the state pool nodes author event blocked the network rejects a team slow just like imagine it like a poker game and the dealer deals you five aces you'd say well this can't be legitimate the deck it must be corrupted the dealer must be bad that's good question from Darko you often address lessons learned from decisions made over the last five years what one or two standout that meet your company's trogir today you know the problem with where we started is that we were both right and wrong we were right from a moral standpoint where you know the reality is the cryptocurrency space as of 2015 it had enormous potential but lack of rigor there wasn't a lot of serious science there wasn't a lot of serious engineering everything was in the hacker space and this is great for open source software and this is great for applications and basically startups you expect this in the beginning but the problem is we're dealing with very complicated concepts like protocol development cryptography distributed systems and those things don't really behave so well in Byzantine environments when they haven't been really seriously designed by serious people and you end up just dealing with the consequences of poor design decisions for quite some time but for the internet for example if you look at what was happening with quick in the latest version of TLS there's a lot of merit promise and potential and they say wow if we had this and this was ubiquitous the internet would be significantly better and Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn they'd be the first people to tell you about all the mistakes they made with the Internet in hindsight there was just things they could have never imagined for example all computers were big and loud and expensive this a concept of a mobile computer that you take with you in your pocket and it's always connected wirelessly with science fiction to them and so they didn't design protocols that were meant for these types of devices and because they didn't design that we kind of monkey patch their way to making them work well in the system and it never is the best of experiences so one of the things that we did at i/o hk's we said let's think very very very deeply about everything for example the smart contract model the problem with the world computer idea is that people say oh well I'm gonna replace Amazon and I'm gonna replace Microsoft Azure and I'm gonna go replace Rackspace and digitalocean with this decentralized infrastructure that somehow will have the same user experience at work and just work and then it's unstoppable and mutable censorship resistant blah blah blah and self-sustaining it's like the world's largest server in the cloud and so the dab the smart contract is kind of like attempting to replace your traditional cellphone application web application and running on this infrastructure this was the hypothetical philosophical idea that we started with etherium but when you do research you actually think about this you say that's Fatah stris the reality is you have your ledger you have this kind of bridge and then you have the conventional world the servers the desktops the clients and so forth and the ledger has a collection of capabilities with it we call those defy capabilities I want to issue an asset I want to have an Oracle tell me something about the external world I need a random number generation I need a clock I need a secure place to store auditable data like a hash or something like that where I get a guarantee that it's time-stamped and immutable ok so there's a collection of capabilities that the legend natively offers then you have code you can write this was the magic of an aetherium style approach that now makes that ledger do war either for you or for everybody because it's an open system okay so you're plugging in new functionality there now the point is that functionality that business logic is a subset of the other side of the things you want to do here so this is your application this can be crypto kiddies or this can be decentralized uber or Airbnb the reality is that infrastructure you write there is still mostly living on Amazon servers are still mostly living on Microsoft servers or so forth and it's communicating by that bridge code to these services that the ledger is providing you that's the model that makes a lot more sense on chain off chain and you get strong guarantees that those services will always be up and available and they'll behave the way that you tend to move and behaving and those are censorship resistant but then the left side is your application and that's your business model that's your company and that's your thing and so this marriage between these two is where the space is at right now though the decentralized computer of the sky that requires outsourced of the computation that requires useful proof of work it requires all kinds of things to make that actually makes sense including the centralized storage and so forth and we're just not there as an industry maybe 2025 2030 2040 we'll get there and have that be a competitive thing too centralized infrastructure but we're not there as an industry but we are there with this idea of Ledger's that have capabilities that user augmenta bowl with bridge code to off chain code whether that be on a node application or something like that so one of the first lessons we learned as a company was a lesson we had to to narrow things down we had all these different approaches we're gonna be evm we could be yellow can do this KS BC stuff we can do Plutus with extended GT excel all of a sudden we have all these dsls we can write we've example that Marlowe is a financial DSL we could also do a legal DSL there's seven criteria for contracts we want to put them all into like an open law framework and then make it legal DSL allow you to take a traditional meatspace contract and program it in so there's so much stuff you can do but knowing where to cut it and say this is 1.0 this is enough that's been a huge lesson for us it's a product lesson it's a project management lesson it's a software velocity lesson it's a risk reward lesson it's an architectural complexity lesson I and it took us years to kind of get to a point where we learn how to do those things well now another lesson we learn is the value of using incumbent platforms gyro in many respects has been the most successful product in the Cardinal ecosystem and this is not because it's the best code or it's you know somehow it has certain capabilities that are so beyond anything else in reality it's quite simplistic it has a beautiful user experience which most of our users need its one-click install it's very easy to use it's very easy to restore a wallet and it just works it's just there and when we upgraded it's automatically upgraded and it has a common infrastructure for Linux Windows Mac so there's a lesson there that you have to balance the infrastructure and desire for innovation and the richness of what we're trying to deploy with the fact that most people are still chained in legacy experiences and this is a this is a big challenge and so that's the other lesson I I'd say you know outside of the where do we cut it and how much do we want to innovate the also we really need to focus heavily on the user so in 2019 we started hiring a lot of product managers like the loggia Nick and Aparna and others and we started telling them use your first experiences first and then let's work our way backwards to the product backlog and what the technology has to do where we have to go now that's been a big cultural change because it's been the other way for us the scientists and the engineers have been leading the show for the longest of time and a lot of things we did a lot of the priorities we made were based on elegance or correctness they were based on innovation why not we we had a mandate to innovate we had a mandate to do research we had a mandate to do things differently so it was a great work environment for engineers and so the pendulum is now swinging the other direction where we're really now thinking about commercialization and a product and marketing and customer and the big challenge for me as a CEO in 2020 will be finding the soul of the company keeping that straight where we will always be a great engineering at research company we will always be a place for engineers and researchers to do the best work of their careers but now we have to be laser focused on that work materializing into things that benefit you the user for example we're thinking very deeply about halo as a technology and the concept of recursive snarks not because these things are mathematically elegant or they do really cool things but because the consequences and for the user experience in particular for the mobile client are profound basically you get something that works on a cell phone that has the same level of security as a full load that just works just there and there's so much we can do with that as a as a cryptographic primitives in our system so this is an example of where really elegant beautiful dense research which is state of the art and does require the use of formal methods or else we have a sapling style bug can somehow be applied to our ecosystem and then suddenly your cellphone client is just as good as the full note in terms of security these are the kinds of win-wins we're looking for in that marriage between the product consumer focus and what we're traditionally doing in technology we also learned we need to do a much better job of explaining ourselves you know we one of the most disheartening reddit threads I've seen lately was on the haskell reddit and people were so excited that we released the latest version of card on oh the four repos worth of it for cardinal no one it's like a whole rewrite we spent a year on this thing we use formal methods on this thing it's an amazing piece of software and people more than thirty developers really talented Haskell developers have invested a year of their professional careers into writing this software and making it exceptional and they they did not skimp on any detail they wrote hundreds of pages of specifications they use quick check they used massive amounts of thought into the architecture and design the types are perfect the logic is perfect it is great software I'd argued is the best software ever written in our industry and then on the haskell reddit we just see a person who happens to work at Kadena criticized the card on OA ICO years ago point to Cardinal Docs which wasn't even written by this team and then say we've made no meaningful contributions we made contributions was GHC GS every day we have somebody works full-time on compiling haskell the javascript we've written a lot of libraries improved libraries like acid state for example made a huge amount of improvements on the DevOps side cross compilation of Haskell code we've made enormous massive contributions to this serious project with tweak for a compilation of Haskell to web assembly which will bring Haskell into the browser we've shown people how to production haskell applications that work on windows for everyday people and work with the same performance and memory profile as a c++ application the delta is just insignificant there this made Haskell not an academic language but a language you should consider to write your applications in as an entrepreneur rapidly incorrectly and I'm incredibly proud of that work but for some reason there certain members of the Haskell community who who think it's just perfectly alright to say the opposite so that's one lesson I've learned is that we really do need to be good at communicating you know we just always had this idea especially amongst well learning people or engineers and scientists that the work we do is self-evident it's just obvious that we've done amazing work with proof of stake it's just obvious that we've done amazing engineering work and so forth and what we found out is it's not so we work very closely with Tim and Brett we've already started a lot of initiatives for example we're reading a whole series of articles on or boris and basically we're going to start from the beginning and walk our way through that journey we went through and clearly articulate why or boris solves the proof of state problem and do this for people so that we have something there we're also gonna include a dedicated article just about attacks on proof you stick like nothing at stake and long-range attacks and so forth and clearly articulate why or Boris defeats these particular attacks so that's just one thread that we're down and then there's gonna be another threat about pollute us and another threat about what we've done on the engineering side and so forth so that people can really understand that this money was well spent and this time well spent and really understand the winds that we as an ecosystem we as a project have had so those are some of the lessons that I've learned is there a Lambo tractor in your future for Christmas I do love Lamborghinis they're great cars you they're just really expensive to fix as true he is jealous do you speak with vitalik somewhere you know if italic doesn't even follow me on Twitter the only time we seem to speak these days when he criticizes my project or criticizes the work our scientists do or attack us over reddit which is really a shame I do talk to some people from the etherium foundation in fact a friend of mine from the etherion Foundation was just arrested virgil Griffiths for those of you who are not aware of this case he went cat spy advice and other people's advice to a conference I believe in North Korea and spoke about a theorem that I believe this was a innocent pact and he was going there to try to evangelize that technology to people who really do need it to get out of a bad time but unfortunately he is a US citizen and United States is at war with North Korea we never really signed a peace treaty we never really formally ended the conflict and North Korean government has tons of artillery pointed towards Seoul and at any time could try to destroy the entire city killing millions of people and the United States has tens of thousands of troops deployed on the border battle ready to invade the country if necessary so it's not a good relationship and unfortunately cryptography under the Wassenaar agreement is considered ammunition which means that it's treated like a mole it's treated like a missile so if you as a US citizen go to a sanctioned country and even innocently enough have a discussion about cryptography it is technically a crime that can be punishable up to 20 years in prison and unfortunately the FBI is chosen to to go at them and I don't know all the facts in particulars I did read the the case they just announced today and I wish him well and I hope that he can find a way to get through that but it is a stark reminder of you know this ecosystem does have a little bit of maturity we tend to think the technology rewrite is just software like a cell phone app like Instagram or something like that we tend to just live in this open-source hacker mentality that there's the internet world and the real world but the reality is the software that we write is social in nature and this software will inevitably throughout the 21st century eventually have control over our identity our money our property and in many cases will be the next great frontier for a global land grab and as this starts maturing and materializing it will have profound geopolitical consequences for the evasion of sanctions for whether a country succeeds or fails to how the markets work for our countries and how regulation works so when we go and evangelize our technology we have to be aware that the governments we evangelize it to have strong opinions on how this technology should work so I love working with regimes in Africa that really want to modernize and do right by their people but I will never go to a conference in North Korea for example in them because I know exactly how that government is going to use that technology I'm sorry any government that has concentration camps and is perfectly comfortable putting generation after generation of people into death camps just because somewhere somewhere along the way somebody pissed off someone at the government is not a government that really should be entrusted with blockchain technology and to use this technology for the good will of their people and unfortunately in our quest for an open society in our quest for everybody being a Galit Aryan we tend to forget that there are still leftovers from the age of Stalin and the 20th century hasn't got away it's with us and the people of the 20th century are still ruling the 21st century so we have a long way to go so aetherium as a project and its leadership have always had some trouble with that they have at times been too idealistic whether it been gavin working with bob summer wall and deciding not to be a bit more permissive with the etherium c++ license and with IBM and as a consequence IBM decided to create fabric as opposed to just making aetherium the default enterprise ledger that was a huge blow to their adoption and counterproductive to things like Virgil getting arrested and as for Vitalik himself I think he's gone through a great maturing as a human being from what I knew him when he was 19 where he's at today he's a totally different person and I think he's done overall pretty good job trying to balance a very difficult ecosystem and he's done a very good job growing that ecosystem and getting that ecosystem to mature and become something that's productive and also he's in a very hard place because the design of aetherium is not sufficient to deliver the vision of aetherium so he has to rally a gigantic amount of people money infrastructure and get them behind the f2 vision and actually realized that and it's it's not going to be easy for him and hasn't been easy so I have a tremendous amount of respect for avital acun for a lot of people at aetherium they get a lot of criticism and times they can be a bit arrogant and not listen to advice especially from me on all things scientific and don't go to conferences but at the other hand they are changing the world like we are and there's a lot of lessons to be learned from their wake so I think in the aspects of wisdom it is good to watch them and even if they won't directly communicate with us especially me we always find a way to have each other he understood from time to time YouTube TV Kunal Charles what do you think about 40% of 8 is on 42 addresses not really looking decentralized well there could be a variety of reasons if there's aggregation a lot of addresses particularly if you have exchanges because the reality is that that may be one address holding it but it has a thousand donors or ten thousand donors so we haven't really computed the Gini coefficient and that would be a really fun community exercise but I don't imagine that we're particularly worse off than anyone else and these are young projects so you have a founder effect occur and then as the price goes up people naturally accept new people at your in and you see more more deconsolidation of the ecosystem so I wouldn't say that there's any red flag if if that's the case do I need a high-quality PC to stick no once you've delegated unique nothing just to delegate as for the state pool minimum requirements will be released probably around December fifth or six charles DC smart contracts being developed on Cardinal will not be used as a financial operating system for example games or personal use cases of course I do this is an example of why bridge coat is so powerful because you can issue assets for voting you can issue assets to tokenize your soccer team you can do all kinds of things and that's just what the system provides you and then the actual logic is written in JavaScript or Java or something and it just talks to the blockchain as a service so we and we hope that and we see these things grow so yeah I really imagine these things coming in 2020 is gonna be really fun Charles do you hold any other tokens yes I hold Bitcoin and I hold ADA those are my two tokens how was work coming along with me papa Nita Papa tastic update on the ginger hippos I was gonna acquire them formally when I went to Uganda but the time I was scheduled they had anabolic so I kind of missed that so I will go next year to Uganda and we'll finalize it off I'm very excited we're gonna we're gonna have a lot of fun with the hippos there have a great season too shouldn't you Oh little al grant well if they give me some tokens sure I like Sylvia he's a good guy that's a good team to Charles house the counter Dada Foundation moving from your view it's now moving quite well they're gonna make some announcements very soon about the Governing Council it just added two new members and those members are awesome and they are really going to supercharge the foundation and help move it along Nathan's doing a good job and needs to do it a good job Domino's doing a good job they had a very hard time cleaning up the mess and now they're getting ready to really take it to the next level they've already made a lot of recruitment they've already made a lot of improvements and everything from putting a good internal patrol system to getting the books where they need to be to hiring key people but these two new members in particular I think are the community is going to be very happy with and I can't wait for their announcement they're actually that's why I was in Switzerland because that was the official date do you have any bore bore goats no mini goats and recently mini donkeys delegating on main net will work with hardware wallets we are planning cold sticking with Ledger's so we are negotiating that deal right now and we'll make an announcement at a later date Aparna will tell you guys all about P Balboa and rocky for in the cold yes yes I am cryotherapy in the cold there's lots of cold everywhere you know it's erotic I was in Dubai and had a coat on I was like what the hell is going on this is crazy it's opposite land when are you coming to Ghana I will come to Accra at some point probably on my trip to Uganda I'll try to do an Africa tour it up Tanzania as well just call through do all the things on my way back from Antarctica looks like a good nap sofa yes sir it is that's why I got my pillows 14 dollars on Amazon gel-infused how long was your most recent fast I broke it twice but it was three days and three days you know the promises I was in Dubai and I was meeting some pretty prominent people there and it'd been rude not to eat while they reading so I decided strategically it was good break it but went back on you know I could do a six-day fast and I'll come back to that who will be the owner of car Dada once the system is decentralized think about that you can answer it yeah you you can do it think about what did you get on Black Friday Charles all I got on Black Friday was an AMA that's enough what would you spend your first eight on I am spent to any ADA yet it's still sitting the IURC eight count I'll probably buy a plane ticket or a hotel room with it Charles II are super sharp right now do you meditate besides and run in the early cold morning well there's a lot of ways to actually get a good mental state you know actually have great YouTube channels what I've learned I talks about everything from fasting to sugar and so forth and just gives great science-based answers to things but there's quite a bit of things you can do to get a good mental state I just work out and do a few other things flow training is fun too actually doing some wingsuit training next month gonna go to sweden then sit in a tunnel fly the wingsuit because wings seeds are awesome Charles looks like you need a smaller shirt yes I do I need new clothing at some point I'll get some tailor-made clothing I got new jeans but I didn't get the shirts done I only have a few getting getting thin guys why would I watch Kate develop some system if they will not own it why should anybody do that where is the point the point is that if we can find money building open infrastructure for everybody then what we've constructed is a business model where the business thinks about more than just itself the business thinks about the benefit of the entire world it's called a triple net business and we're coming up with that and if we can make money everybody else can make money and then suddenly we live in a collective consciousness where we're all working together for each other and yet somehow we still get rich doing that we have to get out of this 20th century mindset of a thousand silos competing with each other for dominance seeking a monopoly at the expense of everyone else that's how you hurt people that's how you burn your environment out that's how you create wars we have to think you know an Universal wealth mentality where we all work together we all work towards a common goal a common good and we create enough wealth in the process of doing that that those who participated live comfortably that's the post capitalism society and that's where we should go or else well you know we'll just burn the whole planet to the ground can't wait for staking to be on me to December 9th is gonna be a good day you guys are like it and please let us know what you think every week we can change things every week we can grow and learn update the mo use in Africa a lot of good things happening there we're on the pilot stage on some of those programs and actually we have tons of offers to do things it's just resource constraining the team is at capacity staking percentages will be announced December 5th I love these questions Charles are you bisexual you guys cracked me out bad french fries on a blockchain those are freedom fries to you sir yeah the ranch has a name how has being rich changed you not much not much at all it actually does not give you happiness and it doesn't change you and if it does it changes you for the worst not the better things will never make you happy people will interactions will honesty will but your favorite dog breed German Shepherd and Labrador it's a mix how do you feel about Bloomberg entering their democratic race I imagine yeah he's doing that probably because he wants to get cheap ads he's not running a strategy to actually win but he is running out of nevertrump strategy he's gonna put hundreds of millions of dollars this year next year into anti-trump ads basically to promote the Democratic candidate because he really really really hates Trump with an unrelenting passion I think he's also trying very hard to avoid someone like Elizabeth Warren or other candidates from winning so that a more moderate Democrat can come through because wealth tax is not a good deal for him or me Keep Calm and car dotto on if we suffer a Walking Dead apocalypse in Cardona goes poof right would you particularly care we had a Walking Dead apocalypse do you think you'll cross the billionaire line one day already did back in 2018 couldn't hide that because people knew how much a tit we had and Forbes was very nice to remind everybody of that against my wishes Glenfiddich er McCallum no no no no neither plan Moran G Sigma if you're doing Scottish if you're doing Irish Jameson 18 is amazing and if you're doing Japanese hippie ki Macallan 30 is good but nobody drinks that it's just like a show bottle that you put on your on your shelf do you expect a reduction in transaction fees as a to price increases yes actually will create some sort of elastic model for that things like make your dao style economics allow you to inject price information it's the system and once ADA becomes self-aware of its own price then we can do dynamic pricing to keep the transaction fees at a very low level being poor doesn't necessarily make you sad some poorest people in the world I've met are the happiest people just depends on whether your needs are met or not are you friends with cz we know of each other we talk he's a good guy not a member of the end gang like tulsi though she's a good gal have you seen the Joker movie I haven't seen it yet I want to but I haven't and also the Irishman came out I gotta see that guys I'm so busy all right mass adoption where'd you meet her we need a tip bought for card on Oh Telegraph we need a tipping service yes we do please community this is a challenge to you to create change tip for card on love to have it are you looking for a girlfriend soon people crack me up are you a member of the accuser I don't need to speak Japanese when you see me with the body suit tattoo then then we got some problems the every a.m. a question Jill Rogan I'm going to answer that question on Joe Rogan at some point get you there Charles what do you think about the two new episodes of Rick and Morty did you watch them already I've watched all three episodes of Rick and Morty I watched him on the plane ride over from Colorado to Dubai excuse me Toronto Dubai when I was flying there very good very good writing they still got it they still got it would you be willing to fight Chico crypto in the ring if he's up for it I will train like rocky did in Rocky 4 and I will get temporary Russian debt mafia tattoos on my body Conor regrets craigers style and fight him in the ring if he's down for that give me a few months but I'll do it so Chico if you're down for celebrity boxing match it's on man after Shelley ships just a just to really really drive it home what do you think of pi the number the movie life greetings from Holland hello my Dutch friend I love the Dutch Charles have you thought of having a card on our blockchain conference at Denver University I can make it happen if interested well Colonel Kurtz I love to you it's a great place that copper roof they put on was way too expensive great campus though I'd love to do something down addy you at least a card on a meet-up be a lot of fun what happened a bit for next listing car Donal they keep saying they're gonna do it it keeps Anna we say sure so I think it's happening the Foundation's been talking to them they did assign a developer so we'll we'll get around to it thoughts of the Twitter CDO moving to Africa to influence blockchain technology John O'Connor actually met up with Jack Dorsey he sent me a picture of them together and the first words John asked his first thing John told Jackie's he asked why does Charles not have a blue checkmark and it gave me the same answer say master Jack gave me which is we're working on it it'll be next year but I'm very happy actually that Jack's taking this seriously and he's doing a good job will it keep crossing paths crypto crow I'll train you Charles get you a ground game crypto crawl I tell you what if we get Chico to commit to this I you're gonna you're gonna be the promoter for this whole thing we'll do it Cincinnati or something like that I'm down I am so down and then you know that's first round the next round will take Dan Larimer can you pick Floyd Mayweather jr. in a boxer match no no not gonna happen google ron paul he's my boy you know coinbase does not hate Cardona be patient people patience hello from Colorado Springs Brandon its pleasure to have you on good out of Colorado Springs all the time greetings from Sweden I am very excited to go to Sweden going actually in December for the wingsuit training what do you think of Tesla's new truck they're trying something new guys they're trying something new who cares if it looks weird you know give them give him a shot you got to give him credit man it's just out there you go to a Neil Young concert with me sounds like you'd have a heart of gold all right one more question guys coming up on an hour hmm are you getting a roadster I'll probably get the new roadster when it comes out because it goes 0 to 60 in 1.8 seconds it'll be faster than my current fastest car which goes 0-60 in three seconds those three objects in the wall where are they above the whiteboard those are masks they're actually very unique masks they're laser cut I'll show you guys it's a good way to NDMA so it's a gentleman out in the East Coast that makes these and he designs them in layers and you can actually just see the intricate detail that they have but what's really cool about them is that they're actually fully wearable so I can put them on just like this so this is a good way to end the ma ah ah there you go right and I have three of them I'll probably get more of your time but you know you just have to build it up and catch things off so anyway thank you so much for listening staking his beginning soon December 5th we're gonna go ahead and have the data dump if the markers came up with that that'd give you a more elegant name but I am NOT a marketer and of course on the 9th we'll look go ahead against taking so until next time thank you so much for listening and bye everybody
