and we're live hi everybody Charles Hoskinson here broadcasting live from warm sunny Colorado always warm always sunny sometimes Colorado sometimes Montana you know one of the best parts of my job besides the fact that I get to wear the John Lennon glasses from time to time is when people send me gifts or letters or well wish and encouragement and whatever they do I always show them off and I've gotten a contender for one of the coolest gifts of the year I've gotten a lot you know from a Mongolian city medal to a letter from Einstein but I'm a little bit of a cowboy at heart so this one's pretty special too so it's a belt buckle look at that let me let me bring it close to the camera so you guys can see it and that right there it says dadelus Shelly or Boris it's got the orb or a snake you see the front in the back it's a silver buckle you know there's an old cowboy tradition you never buy your own buckles you either get them as a gift or you win them I'm not a cowboy I've met a lot of cowboys in my life and they kick my ass if I call myself one but I sure do you love going to the rodeos and I showed you love dressing up like one from time to time and I wear boots every day so it it means a lot to me to get something like this especially given that it's custom-made it's got the cardinal logo on it it's got the ADA logo it's got the Daedalus logo I I just want to thank the fan that made this it means a lot to me it's a it's a very very special gift and it's a very unique gift and it's definitely a conversation starter and I tell you what I got a lot of friends in the rodeo as well so what I might be able to do depends on maybe not this year but next year certainly for Frontier Days is I'll see if I can get it on a champion bull rider so not only are we gonna win in the markets we're gonna win in the rodeos too so thank you so much for that that is a real cool thing okay so I love doing AMAs you guys are the best community ever you know it's just so much fun talking to you it's so much fun getting your questions and I always think it'll be like 20 minutes 30 minutes we'll have some fun and move on and then it adds up to ours because I just always get the best questions it's great brief update you know we we first off hit our deadline we were supposed to release something today we did first time ever we've connected all the wallet back in components is Shelly node and now it's just waiting for next week for all the Daedalus components to turn on for the end end test for balance check so that in the card for Combinator are the last two major milestones before we launch all the the Shelly maintenance stuff and then we're all just waiting for art Fork so based on the test next week will either be launching that main net candidate on the 30th or July 7th it's one of those depending on whether the weather is good or not type of deals so we'll see what happens personally I think the 30th is ago but we'll find out formally next week and it's really exciting to actually see the balance yet come to a come actually happen you know it's one thing to talk about Shelly it's one thing to talk about shipping this but five years of amazing work five years and we're finally here yeah guys this lived on a white board a long time ago it lived in a notebook a long time ago it was conversation after conversation and there was a lot of things that could have come along that could have broken it there were a lot of hard times a lot of missteps a lot of protocol failures design failures staffing changes that had to be made you know we we were dug in on certain ways we shouldn't have been we were not as resilient as we needed to be but despite all that we found a way to make it happen and in just two short weeks it's either that week or the now for the following week it's out there's really never gonna be a moment in my life that's as special as that and I'm glad I get to share it with everybody I really do you know people they graduate from medical school or they get a PhD or they solve a big math problem or something like that and that's a personal victory and as great as it may be it's incomparable in magnitude too when you get to celebrate with an entire community of people tens of thousands of people all across the world different languages different cultures but one big family and I'm I'm just blown away by how far we've all gone whether it be a belt buckle or a letter from Einstein or some recipes for cookies you know it could be a letter written on a typewriter doesn't really matter everybody does their part and everybody shows their support and it's amazing to see just how this has brought so many people together over all the years you know I can't tell you how many fathers and mothers have emailed me and said you know I I wasn't really connecting with my kids but we decided to do a steak pool together we decided to do something with car dot own together and we actually can relate and do something there we watch your a maze or we got a raspberry pie we somehow found a way to get the ITM working on it that's pretty special all things considered and it means the world to me so thank you all for sticking with me I really appreciate it means a lot so we have some cleanup there's the ITN you know and a lot of people inside my organization are saying we should keep that gone a great community nineteen thousand nodes 1,200 registered steak pools why don't we fund come up with a cool roadmap for it and keep it running and so I set out on Twitter I said hey if you run a steak pool what do you think should we keep the itn rollin do something else with it I have a lot of good ideas a lot of things in the roadmap that we could play around with it'd be really cool to have an experimental chain and have real economic value I'm pretty sharing it finance to list it so you know if you guys are game on game let us know your thoughts and you know I tell you what as a sign of support I think rewards are coming to an end here in a few days I believe the 19th is when the rewards are gonna run out so if you're making blocks beyond that then there's no more rewards but if you want the itn to keep living keep mining keeps taking on it and I keep that chain alive and if there's enough community support I'll definitely consider doing something with it and see if we can get it listed and building something special along with it as kind of an extra gift to all those who stuck with that for six months so the balls in your court let's let's see what we can do as a community legends of a lar let's update they're completely unrelated to card oh no it's a video game I bought transactions done money sent IP has been transferred over I am the proud owner of intellectual property produced in 1992 how about that and I've actually bought this book from Jeff Howard it's on designing magic systems and I thought it was gonna be a quick read but it's surprisingly disconnected but inspired brilliant book where things are not written in the way they should be but nonetheless it does have a quite a bit quite a bit of interesting stuff inside of it and I've learned a hell of a lot more about different magic systems than I care to care to come up with the vents seeing magic system meant nothing to me about a week ago and now I know a lot about these types of systems so progress is definitely being made there and I'm actually looking for some candidate sites to put a game development studio so currently the candidates are Colorado Wyoming Rwanda and perhaps a place in Asia Mongolia would be my choice so I'll take a look at the merits of all these different places how I'm gonna set it up is we'll do a modified Haskell training course normally what we do is we send Lars and family out with Polina and others and they go train a 2030 people to program in Haskell and then we hire the good ones and we let the rest go well we'll probably do something like that but instead of hiring them to be Cardinal developers I'll train them after they graduate with an additional six to nine months of training on things like unity and Godot and game development and the really really good ones I'll keep on board and then open up a studio so we'll see where we get to do that I'll let you guys know what the selection process is gonna look like and if you think of an alternative jurisdiction that is superior to either Colorado Wyoming Mongolia or Rwanda do let me know you know I always said I'll occasionally keep you in the loop with legends of valor and I'm having a surprising amount of fun on that we are looking heavily into Gogan we are looking heavily into some other things as well and I have lots to say about Gogan at the virtual summit make sure you go to the Cardinal virtual summit Cardona cardano's summit IOH K dot IO that is the tentative website for it there's already a hundred speakers that we have signed up we have some really good surprising speakers more and more coming on board of in surface speaking Stephen Wolfram is speaking the last time I checked 3300 registered guests I'm gonna go on a giant podcast tour and hopefully we get that number over 10,000 that'd be a lot of fun all across the world we've sent some invitation letters out to various heads of state we and some politicians have already signed up and I it's a very diverse crowd very interesting crowd I think it's probably the best summit we've ever put on from agenda and then from content it will even be better and you don't have to pay anything to go completely free how about that okay let's get to your questions questions questions questions what's your favorite song from wish you were here the wish you were here oh my god I caught a live am a yes Aviva you did the great Aviva Bulow a very good old friend of mine from way back in the day and we knew each other before we were cool and now she's a big shot over in California what else we got here bomb bomb we have 371 people listening live kind of a light day when lambs little fluffy ones they have no lambs got goats many goats goats will eat the Lambs come on what else we got here but you Perdue who's your favorite composer classical composer Chopin there is just no comparison hey Charles you're studying artificial fabric technology for a test what kind of new artificial fabrics pellet right son what kind of new artificial fabric would you like to see in the future well it would be really cool if your fabric had thermochromic properties so that basically it changes color based on the ambient temperature so my shirt could be like blue then red then yellow that'd be really cool in fact I even once showered in a shower that had thermochromic paint and so it actually change color based on the water temperature that was a lot of fun kind of a crazy place and a fear of the SEC or any of the government's intervening on your project projects not really US government I are tight I'm not so worried about it just be honest do your job and have a good relationship with your community and build real value then you don't worry about these things I'd like to make mimetic polyalloy is like t1000 well yeah actually live a liquid metal does exist I just read an article about it do you like fate Oh who's your favorite fado singer no god no are you still consulting with polymath no I just sent recently finished that contract and they're working on polymesh now so I hope they actually do some great things with it it's being built on parity substrate and as I am NOT an expert up with that platform there's really not a lot I can contribute so I wish him well and I hope everything works out when will you have a partnership with SpaceX well you should talk to them hi Charles how close are the team to agreeing on the K value and the a not value I selected it on Wednesday this last week we have blog posts incoming so we'll let you know at the summit or close to it Charles you once mentioned that you didn't like ripple hired Ben Loski why is Ben bad for the crypto space super nintendo lost key past bitlicense he asked the space for some advice and I even I contributed everybody gave him some information and then he took everything that we said put it in a paper shredder did the opposite destroyed the entire regulated cryptocurrency industry in the state of New York that's why a lot of exchanges aren't there it's a lot of lie very few people have qualified for a bit license basically they killed the industry and Loski also comes from the very same group of people that put Ross Albert can prison Loski kims from the very same group of people that uses the heavy hand of the state to basically arbitrarily punish those who the state disagrees with for financial crimes and now he's doing what all regulators do which is after burning the system down go into private industry and cash out at $600 an hour so it was very philosophical thing as one of the moves that I thought bad Leedy legitimized Ripple and I understand why they do it because they want to go and do an IPO and all that stuff and you know I wish him well and I like the guys that were there Dave and Chris and so forth I just think that putting bet on your board is a sign that you're prepared to compromise when we shouldn't as an industry we need to transcend I'm not in the business here to make banks richer I'm in the business here to put the bank's out of business question can you talk more about the cardano's stable coin what is the progress currently we are in the exploration phase for it Bruno paleo is leading that and he's done three major presentations and enormous amount of research I think probably the most comprehensive research that's ever been done on stable coins in our space he's an incredibly thorough guy very thorough so don't don't for once challenge that and I really do think that he'll come up converge with the help the organization to a great design if we wish to pursue it so well you guys know but we haven't committed to it yet Charles is a hard work he's still in talks for Daedalus wallet yep phyto compliant guys like Fido I like Fido you 2fa for the win finally we can have a proper logon now like one of those shitty law it's but a hardware login how about that hello from Melbourne Australia well hiya might a small Australian is terrible I love I love that we have people all around the world it's really cool what time is it in Australia right now that was a terrible Australian accent yeah I don't knew Australia I do you squish that's a lot better isn't it I could do this whole thing in Scottish and then a real Scotsman will be listening and say what are you doing what's wrong with you Charles see I went dry this year so the Scottish accent also went out the door hello from Lagos I love Nigeria how's it out there what what's the temperature do you like Radiohead absolutely do you guys ever listen that remix of creep that was done for the social network short trailer that was really good hello from Argentina I love seein Tina is a beautiful place Alan Verbier is one of my best friends in the space and I love a tix they are just an incredible firm to work with and they've done some great things any update on Africa is still working in Africa John O'Connor is doing some good things we'll have a whole Africa presentation at the summit where we'll have the gals come out and talk about some of the projects we've done we are right now in a very competitive bid for a voucher program in Ethiopia we're still in a feasibility study for a payment system in Addis as well and there's a lot of other little things we got in the fire so john o'connor will give you guys an update hello from italy Ciao Italia got my stock been a Cosi Cosi abbastanza banner mi me this piace moto3 stead backing Bill Gates really look guys all I know is what I see and do we rubbed shoulders with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in Africa like the agricultural transformation agency and so forth they've been nothing but kind with us and the things we talk about or how to help people and they're legitimate genuine in the work that they do you know as for all of this like nasty population stuff okay I've heard the same things you guys have had but all I can do is judge a man by the things that he does and the things that I see and the places where we tend to run into there people are productive positive and we never really have a question about how do we sterilize people they have a question about how we save lives that's my personal experience being physically in Africa meeting with their people take it or leave it people say all kinds of horrible things about me but I will say this he's not a real person in that he portrays himself different from who he actually is and you can detect that and there's plenty of people in public life who do that from Bill Clinton the Obamas to other people and when there is a gap between how you portray yourself and who you actually are it is an invitation for people to define you positively or negatively so it's best to just be yourself not who you think people should be or or want you to be otherwise you will inevitably end up having a lot of people say horrible things about you Mark Zuckerberg is probably the greatest example of that dude looks like an Android I think he had a focus group tell him how to drink water I'm glad that Charles's accents don't reflect his technical prowess I am very glad about that too norm I love life hi from Norway I hope we can start traveling again soon absolutely I'd love to come I'm going to do a pilgrimage there still have a lot of family members there the steen family why don't you come into Greece for holidays I have people in Greece we have an office in Athens Lamborghini or Ferrari as I have a Lamborghini Lamborghini I wouldn't mind a Ferrari 488 that's a nice car it has cup holders Lambo doesn't Putin walk Charles will there be any point of smart contracts and car down without gcj s well there's plenty of point for that try again give me something the man the myth the legend no so legendary talk to my mom about that she'll tell you I'm not remember no matter how famous are great the person is they got a mama and to their mama they're not famous Jeff Bezos are Elon Musk Elon Musk the house suck is really not much older than me when will we be able to play the new legends of valor I have to create at first children it's like George Washington during the Revolutionary War you know he would kept working on Mount Vernon you would be sending these exhaustive letters telling his his cousin to like change a field or clean up a silo or something like tent Josh I got a Huracan LP 610 2017 spider who will do the soundtrack for legend - Valar I was thinking of doing a hybridized soundtrack for it where we would do somebody like Ramin Djawadi or Max Richter I actually have them collaborate together I also have a connection to Trent Reznor and he did some great work where's Atticus Ross so it was super cool to see if we convince Trent to do something was Ramin Djawadi now ramen is one of those guys whose name you know just you just don't know but you know his works so well and I'll sing it for you Dada da da da da dun Dada da Dada you know Game of Thrones he did the Game of Thrones soundtrack he did the West world soundtrack and many of these other HBO shows so Robins great in that and he's done a few game soundtracks as well bear McCrady is another one he did the God of War soundtrack for the latest god of war wonderful stuff why does molten tar monster number 3 hate ADA remember the proper name because the man hates himself and if you hate yourself you cannot love anything fasting anytime soon I just finished a 2 day fast Carlito's Way when Shelly delay no delay so am I gonna get an apology Carlito when we ship Shelly do that heart Fork are you gonna go get on your hands and knees and beg for forgiveness or you're gonna find something else to a troll about legitimately asking you seem to ask in every one of our things what else we got here come on kids did molten tar monster number one admit to the Bitcoin mount GOx Act I think he accidentally did you know Craig Wright is a special flower and I've run into him three times in my career [Music] then he belies reason in words and why Bitcoin as fee is a real community is beyond me it's a cult it's a death cult and at some point he'll tell them to take the kool-aid what are the stories behind the painting yeah that's a water house over there and that's a good stuff climp and then that is as young lee as your own does your um is my favorite painting and I have some of my masks there I have a lot more in my office as well I have all the symmetrical like geometric mass in the office you hit charlie to be doubling down to the kids kitties and children thing yeah Peter I do that because it annoys the hell out of some people and I just love annoying the hell out of some people we're all kids at heart come on now have you become so old and callous and decrepit that you cannot find your inner child look at me boy do you subscribe to the holo fractal theory No and I have not done enough drugs to understand it Charles you look younger every time I shave my beard I do I lose about 10 years that coffees [ __ ] good is Shelly on schedule yes do you see a roadblock oh yes many but we've gotten through all of them so far knock on wood is there a god yeah well if not we'll invent one how old are you Charles I am 32 years old Charles what do you think of the Seattle autonomous zone okay this America you don't in America go and create your own country you just don't do that last time we tried that it was Civil War didn't work out so well for anybody the Seattle mayor is a coward the Seattle administration they're a bunch of cowards you know there's a world of difference between peaceful protests and civil disobedience and rioting and extortionary behavior the people who live in Chas who own that property they're being subjected to basically extortion they're basically told they have to provide food money and other things for these incumbents that have come and if they don't then they're assaulted they can't leave their home they live in fear some of these people have lived there and they're in their 70s and they've lived there their whole life and they're basically just being subjected to this terrorism and what is the seattle government's response they give them toilets and they feed them you know you do you cut off the power of the water you build a wall around the whole place and as they grow tired of it and they leave you arrest them and you charge them and put them in jail for ten years you just don't allow lawlessness like this to persist and propagate it is the destruction of society you know if you have grievances then solve the [ __ ] problem don't be a bunch of goddamn kids running around setting things on fire breaking windows you won't accomplish anything if these are municipal problems vote the municipal governments out you know it's not that hard if you're able to organize and get thousand people 10,000 people hundred thousand people and maintain rage vote just do that vote out the mayor vote out the entire municipal government put your own people in change the electoral system you think America is so fundamentally broke and hold a constitutional convention but don't for once create the ideal society where you don't even know how to farm good luck with that and now you're you have a warlord running around with guns telling people that the white people have to pay the black people these craziness it's just it's just an artistic madness of a bunch of chip posting kids it's like the comments section on the internet came alive and created their own little city and they're having a lot of fun and the millions and millions of dollars of damage that they're doing of course they won't repay they won't be held accountable and then you know here's the best part the greatest irony of chazz they had a fire and they couldn't put it out so they had to call the fire department to come and help them with their little utopia again why is Seattle even playing into it just let the fire spread how to burn up a bunch of stuff so that they can understand that maybe these public services have a real purpose behind them you know there's a world of difference between doing something constructive in something destructive I get the rage I get the anger I've been all throughout Africa I have seen people who have missing arms and limbs and shrapnel wounds from barrel bombs and they're basically told that they have to set it aside and get along ok whatever problems and grievances you have are perceived to have theirs are far worse and if they can find a way to build a constructive society without burning things down or resulting in sectarian violence you can find that same way too but you see they're not interested in solving the problem because there's no profit glory or political gain in actual solutions there's profit in division there's profit and power to be gained in allowing the problem to persist and persist and persist and persist so why we never solved the illegal immigration problem the United States it's actually not that hard the left wants to run it run it run it to become so a crisis that they can legalize all of the illegal immigrants and if they think that they do that they'll get a solid reliable voting bloc and turn Texas blue and the right wants cheap labor so if you keep them in the shadows the labor is permanently cheap both sides have no political incentive to actually work together create a guest worker program solve it guys it's the incentives here's how you know here's how you know that people aren't interested in solving the problem okay if they were really interested in solving the problem everybody in the political spectrum right and left in the United States would be right now talking about changing our voting systems moving to liquid feedback moving to contra sake house board accounts changing the way we elect our efficient term limits these types of things because if we have a 90 plus percent disapproval rate of Congress no one likes the recent presidents we've had the last 30 years then that's probably a good indicator at the election system is no longer capable of converging to good choices but we have bipartisan agreement to keep the system as it is just telling you that if you change the people at the top somehow it all be different it was no different under Obama no different either Trump it'll be no different on her Biden okay so unless you changed the system you're not going to have the system give you the Intendant results and Chas will not change the system it's a propaganda piece being propped up by the government to excuse the broader social situation that we're running it alright let's see what we got here goodnight prism oh we got a great beautiful presentation on prism be you guys are gonna love it we're doing it in two weeks though you know I gotta save things for the summit or else why I like this summit it's nice stuff why does Iowa K work with litecoin - we currently have no relationship with litecoin but i'd be happy to work with Charlie and his guys come on give me some good kids hello from a rock please name a book that inspired you well Ron chair now is Titan really did love that book why did you delete your LinkedIn I deleted it because it was of no use to me I just got spam and recruiters I'm sorry I have better things to do than apply for a JavaScript development job here in Colorado I really particularly like LinkedIn I was kind of hopeful when Microsoft bought it from Reid that they would clean it up make it a decent social network but LinkedIn is only useful when you're looking for a job or you want a business network with people I don't have to do that I've kind of reached a point in my career in life where people call me I don't call them and I don't need to use LinkedIn I have other people for that how are the chillies doing oh the chillies are doing great oh I come right over there I have planted some in the garden over there I got some jalapenos I got some super red hots unfortunately super red hots didn't do so well but the hell opinions did very well and actually they survived the hydroponic transplant which I surprised usually when you grow something hydroponically and you put it into actual soil there's one it doesn't really survive as well as you'd hope but it it's doing quite well but I'm pound do you workout exercise I used to cut all this fat here I'm a six at best what else we got here kids come on give me some good questions it'll listing on coinbase you know better than asking that you really do shame on you you get to sit in the corner now I wish I had a corner but I put you in a corner button any books you'd wreck on critical thinking yes I will make a book list for that I know you guys been asking for it ever since I did the propaganda series yes still look good well thank you I appreciate it you know I've had a lot of people tell me that - I think they're just trying to get my money just kidding well card Auto ever be listed on NASDAQ no because it's not a security are you the Stanley Kubrick of crypto I think so if I Stanley Kubrick I would rebuild card oh no 200 times and then eventually quit the the film saying it didn't fit my vision although I'd be able to work with Malcolm McDowell he's a pretty good actor do you know what movie he played in with Stanley Kubrick do you guys remember come on very famous here's a hint it had Beethoven in it it played a famous scene with Beethoven have you watched Bob Lazar on your own yes a Clockwork Orange congratulations Jason you win the movie a trivia of the day that is correct wonderful film deeply disturbing but basically that's like chaz dialed up to eleven right eyes wide shut was different movie eyes wide shut actually had Tom Cruise and I believe Nicole Kidman I can't remember yeah I think that's where they met or that's where they were starting the relationship that was a great movie hello from Sweden you know I was just in Stockholm not too long ago I was training with jar note for wingsuit training and I was actually due to go back in March and then I was going to go over to Amsterdam to train with wim HOF unfortunately with his weird thing called coronavirus just came out of [ __ ] nowhere and ruin all of our travel plans favourite stoic philosopher Seneca and Marcus Aurelius has his charm - everybody cites Marcus but Seneca was the one that he read kazooie Japan no no that's Korea yes wim HOF and he plans of visiting Australia I was in Canberra not too long ago Charles what caused you more hair loss I which ke th et Cie or your farm Iowa J I've been here for 60 months so that certainly caused me quite a bit of hair loss but as aggressive Family Guy that would be totally bald I'm just gonna have to be like Bezos and shave all of it off and take human growth hormone and get all buff and wear those glasses with an explosion behind me maybe I'll just you know dive in neural endocrine pancreatic cancer like jobs hi aetherium co-founder what's happening with s2 release just kidding uh-huh you yeah I love ya you watch that video didn't you yeah there we go Charles have you ever been to New Zealand yes I've seen the kakapos there I was going to go there on a way to Tonga also got cancelled share your time on Bitcoin education project I'm getting nostalgic and fortunately that came to a close a long time ago however I am planning on doing a refresh of that course at some point Charles are you planning a certification program like the certified cardinal professional yeah we've talked with Cardinal foundation about that it's not a priority today but it probably will be tomorrow so you know we'll we'll work our way towards that we're not quite where we need to be Charles is in good spirits today well yes of course I am you gotta be happy kids you gotta be happy hello from Portugal well open a god door I love Portugal I was just in Porto I love the vineyards there goddammit why am i dry can't have you come an alcoholic like the rest of you well is me are you a Scientologist Oh Lord no I worship Odin Norse gods forever opinions on V chain well a lot of V chain people talk to me they say stuff they comment on threats I've actually never looked into V chain I think it's like a supply chain thing don't ever do a comb-over no I'm man enough to shave it once I'm past the point of no return its bald when I go chrome-dome forever hey Charles how does delegation incentives change for ADA with the introduction non ADA multi assets potentially used for transaction fees it doesn't because you'd still use eight as the finite resource for selection of the delegates of the state pools however when a person makes a block because it would contain those transactions that are from non-native assets then what would occur is that they'd get the assets as transaction fees in addition to the ADA so making a block would result in an ETF you'd actually have a portfolio of cryptocurrencies as opposed to just one how many bales a hey did you produce this season I'm not sure I haven't counted them yet I'll let you know what do you think of chain-link you know maybe we should compete with them you guys want to do that what a builder on chain-link on card on oh that's like so much better let me know in the comments pail Odin there we go finally now you're getting why we have all the damn Norse mythology can you explain turing-complete and is it necessary no it's not necessary you can use the ax cells that are turning incomplete if desired to to run smart contracts or special-purpose contracts but turing completeness is nice because you have a sense of generis ism with your system now most these systems are quasi Turing complete because they're metered so it almost is there but not quite there and basically the idea is that you can express in your language you have a sufficient level expressiveness in your language to model and pretty much any type of transaction that you'd like now whether that transaction is cost effective or that transaction is useful for your context is completely contextual to the the underlying virtual machine infrastructure that you're using and the computational model that you're using but in general it's desirable to have a turing-complete system because you have more flexibility with it but there's a lot of pitfalls like for example you cannot get approve that code will terminate it's called the halting problem so what you need to do is use a metering system so you run out of a resource for that but then an introducing a metering system with your computations you introduce a great degree of potential complexity and attack vectors which is why aetherium has to be retuned over and over again every hard fork because there's always something that goes wrong but if you're really interested now internees original paper where he actually uses it to show that the in songs problem is false then I'd encourage you to read the book annotated Turing from charles pitt salt yeah and he does a great job basically breaking down the preliminaries behind Turing's paper and then actually going through the entire paper paragraph by paragraph with annotations explaining what is a Turing machine and why does the proof do what it does what Turing was trying to do along with Alonzo Church and her girdle and they all did church did lambda calculus and girdle used recursive functions for this but they're all isomorphic approaches but basically what Turing was trying to do was solve a problem that David Hilbert had presented so basically mathematics needs to have four properties for it to be a good system or at least this was the belief at the turn of the 19th to 20th century and unity and the International math conference in 1900 this was like the big thing they were pushing with Bertrand Russell and Alfred North Whitehead and all these other logicians like Gottlob Frege a and so forth but basically the concept is that you first would like to have a system that is independent and consistent so independent meaning that all the axioms of your system so the things that you assume to be true without proving that they're true those axioms basically are all necessary and they don't prove each other meaning that one can be derived from a collection of others and I mean if this is not obvious like Euclidian geometry for a long time people are curious if the parallel postulate was independent or it could be derived from other axioms so people spend quite a bit of time thinking about that over two thousand years it turns out that it is and then you would like consistency so you don't a situation where by assuming two things or more or n things to be true that the system will be basically violating itself so you need something would be both true or false or something because of axioms that you have in the system okay so mathematics as the axioms that we constructed for set theory our mathematicians constructed our sound from the perspective that they're independent we believe inconsistent where you run into some problems is completeness and decidability so completeness is the property of saying if I have some arbitrary statement that I'd like to derive the truth value of we call this the whiff a well-formed formula so it's some proposition of logical connected things then you should be able to fire a reduction to that to the axioms of mathematics so you should be able to say that that whiff is you have enough information in math to prove it now if your system doesn't have enough axioms meaning there exist statements in the system that can't be proved within the system it's called an incomplete system now there was a very famous mathematician named Kirk Erdal who as a graduate student actually studied this problem and at later in his career discovered through curdles incompleteness theorem that not only is math incomplete it can never be made complete by the construction of the laws of mathematics there's this inductive axiom requirement where you can always construct a statement outside of the system as a consequence of the prior axioms that can't be proved with them you'd always need to add another one and then by adding it you can construct another statement and use all these clever ideas like girdle encodings and so forth to do that so that was pretty depressing like hey you can spend your life is a mathematician but you're working with in a fundamentally incomplete system it's not true for all mathematical systems like Hilbert's formalization of geometry is complete but then the last question is decidability so let's say you can build a magic machine and this is where computer science came from and what Turing was interested in Church and girdle were interested in so you can build a magic machine that you can put in your well form formula and out it would spit true false or undecidable meaning you don't have enough information in the system to be able to prove it so Ella David Hilbert who was the guy that really got all this rolling was absolutely convinced that you could do that and what Turing did as a graduate student which was quite remarkable is that he showed you couldn't do that in general and he did by constructing something called a Turing machine but in the process of doing that he basically constructed the foundations of modern computer science which is another remarkable thing although at the time he wasn't fully aware that what he had done and the other formulations of this also are alternative models of computation that are used like lambda calculus is used with Haskell for example so there's a lot of magic there in these systems and the people who study that are called logicians kind of rhymes with magician but it's called a logician and set theorists and there's been many many famous logicians throughout the years from cantor and girdle and set theorists throughout the years and most of them go crazy girl went crazy he starved to death because he thought people are poisoning his food he was a paranoid schizophrenic and Cantor also went crazy so it's not good for your mental health to study these things because you start thinking about things like the Continuum Hypothesis and so forth anyway so if you're interested in that story the annotated Turing is a great story what were we talking about hmm did I hear a dog how many dogs you have got four dogs - big ones - tiny ones what is honeycomb I think it's an Oracle solution that that our NGO is pushing the Turing test is not for human stupidity the Turing test is an imitation game and it's just a game of can you fool somebody better than a normal human can you talk about Ricardian contracts yes in Greece thing is you know we never actually touched B the ADA card that was a Michael Parsons initiative and that's why I got so [ __ ] up in the beginning everything that guy touched was just a basket of nightmares and they got a commitment but it wasn't a contractual commitment then they announced Ted 10 and it was just he was just mess absolute mess I'd like to do a debit card and it'd be nice thing to do but it was the way that the foundation did it under the Parsons administration was not good thoughts on naive set theory misspelled but very good book it was written by Paul Hal Mose it's one of the seminal works in set theory and it's one of the best books that Paul had ever written it's actually my favorite mathematical author him and Thomas Hungerford both of them have an enormous amount of clarity Jordan Peterson is a good man opinions on the banning of Confederate flag and pulling down mommy mints you know I understand the cultural heritage but I wasn't born in the south I lived in the south I lived in Virginia and there's a lot of pride there for Dixie yeah you know you got shows like Dukes of Hazzard in the General Lee where it's on the car it's part of their culture but here's the thing they were the enemies of the United States they weren't the United States they seceded from the Union so why we should name US military installations after them that's that doesn't make a lot of sense to me that would be like naming US military bases after German generals or Japanese generals when you fight the US Army you're by definition not an a lock you're not a contributor I understand they were American citizens but at the same time they took an oath of office and they abandoned that and caused a war that killed a half million people and yeah there are states rights I could understand that component of it the end of the day the core of what they were fighting for was to preserve the institution of slavery I said you know yes there needs to be a separation of power between the states government the federal government but let's be clear here the the key issue that they were having a debate about was the the long-term durability survivability of slavery now there are a lot of historians who feel that there perhaps were more negotiated ways where things could have been resolved like they could just ban generational slavery prevent the importation of it and then gradually buy back the slaves and set them free so there could've been a lot of ways to phase out that institution as other countries did without resulting in a civil war but you know the Confederacy had no legitimacy they lost the war not only that after they lost the war because of Andrew Johnson and his evil and things that came after the Ku Klux Klan formed with millions of members and brutally murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent black people in the south and went on campaigns of terror torture and other horrible things not just for a few years but for decades and decades and decades and decades so a lot of these monuments to the Confederacy were not constructed at the back end of the war grant and others would never allow that and they were constructed during the 1950s and 60s and 40s during the civil rights movement as a counter reaction to it and then they have poorly Imam Imams for that for that matter you know there are certainly historical figures that should be remembered like General Lee and others and whether we love them or hate them they're part of the American story and there's real value to having statues I'm not just great people but statues of evil people or bad people or people who are tragic flawed because it reminds you that you could become that person and you're not so different from these people whether you'd like to believe it or not so I do despise the tearing down of monuments from the perspective of well that person was a bad person so we can't honor them no you just change the story but you leave the statue and then you change and then you can teach people about that but if you tear them down then you're applying unrealistic and unreasonable standards and because standards will change and here's the thing and 100 years time vast majority of us today we'll all be unwashed masses who are racist sexist and homophobic and when we have nine hundred genders and you know our digital avatars and people are marrying Holograms and [ __ ] and if we feel uncomfortable about that well our microaggressions and thoughts will immediately label us the other and our monuments will be torn down too so I think it's really preposterous to apply a contemporary standard to people who lived hundreds of years ago they were just simply different times you know the other thing is that a lot of these protesters they don't even know what the hell they're doing they're going around defacing statues of abolitionists they say oh that's a statue to an old white dude must be a slaver meanwhile the guy that they defaced got stabbed by slavers rescuing slaves on the Underground Railroad and bled to death so the very group of people that they'd like to prop up as heroes they're defacing the statue because they don't even know the damn history it's it's pretty disgusting you know statues of Adolf in Germany or anywhere in Europe though yeah because it's illegal the denounced off' occation campaign meant that he tore down all the stuff and what they did is they dialed up the Frederick the Great dialed down the Bismarck and they kind of walked away from that whole historical period but ignoring that does not serve a purpose and there is a rise in right-wing extremism in Germany especially in East Germany because people don't know the past Charles there are rumors that certainly maenette will launch immediately after the second or third no its 29th you have to schedule these things because they're else you'd lose liquidity on exchanges 29th of July is when the heart Fork occurs in worship and client either or June 30th her July 7th now they actually did not deface the Lincoln Memorial there were soldiers there that's why they didn't defy sit they probably would have attempted to do that and if given the chance and nothing would have D legitimized their movement more than that there's a reason why Martin Luther King spoke at that at that Monument rogon after Gogan Andres rogen after Gogan a mergo is going to provide spot 27 a whole list of updates at the Cardinal summit they have equal standing with the foundation and I which K in the agenda so there'll be a lot of stuff there Charles do you own a chainsaw tactical shotgun yeah yeah yeah Gears of War all the way did you ever play runescape no I did not have the opportunity do you play chess yes colored coins we solved that problem called native assets we took what color coins wanted to do we made it better wrote two papers on it peer-reviewed eventually favored chess player of all time nimza woods his whole strategy of prophylaxis is like over defense wrote all these so like the art of defense and chance brilliant guy what is the worst top ten coin bsv by far doesn't need to be there doesn't deserve to be there it's a cult Dan review Dan Larimore thinks peer review is dumb yeah because he never went through it and didn't understand it I mean if he can't survive it it would make sense why he doesn't want to do it come on kids give me some good questions sexy questions happy questions coming up on an hour I want to close it out in an hour but I'd like a good question come on you can do that have you trained in any martial arts yes total pseudo and Taekwondo and judo gonna get into Muay Thai and BBJ in a bit I was actually gonna start but then it's coronavirus hit all these things I was gonna do a crowd of ours like killed it I was always gonna start neural feedback training - that's really cool stuff coronavirus can't do it you just got to cut the krona lots and lots of Corona does banana belong in a fruit salad it depends on the person favorite world history books sapiens ah my system there we go yeah from nimza woods that was it not the art of defense but my system Halle Kane was the one that wrote all the offensive books thoughts on Bruce Lee overrated come on I was always a Chuck Norris fan we all got to be getting into JavaScript programming now do you like pineapple on your pizza or not you should buy eloquent JavaScript if you're actually gonna be a serious JavaScript programmer it's a very good beginning book it's an Isetta Noir third edition and then after you read that immediately go and learn typescript and just write typescript don't do javascript you'll thank me for it have you ever been to Brazil yes you know Brazil was the only place I've ever been in my life where the women hit on me I didn't hit on them they came up to me on the beach and gave me their number yeah Brazil's a strange place but a lovely place favorite Chuck Norris lion you know Chuck Norris was once bitten by a Cobra and after three agonizing days of pain and misery the Cobra died are you sure they were women yep verified that do you have beef with Trayvon James I saw the tweet at him look the dudes lost all legitimacy after backing bit connect I'm sorry that's like that's like something you don't go back home from you know it's like that old saying you know you have an Irish guy at a bar it's a good one he's like you know when you build a bunch of bridges they call you a bridge builder you know when you build a bunch of churches they call you a church builder you know when you're a farmer and you have big big fields and lots of crops they call you a proper farmer you can do all those things but you [ __ ] one goat and they're always gonna call you a go [ __ ] and that's where he's that he he got tempted by the goat when will we see McCann's work the card out org refresh is the first artifact of that it's beautiful most disgusting celebrity ever met in person ooh Hansie that was interesting well I was flown a plane with Shia LaBeouf and that was an interesting experience Chris we're gonna get into some major beef if I tell the story so I might tell her the story are you a freemason no what's wrong with object-oriented languages I mean if you'd like writing ten times as much code with lower reliability harder maintenance difficult time explaining it impedance remit mismatches with reality harder to buy a time you know you know substandard tooling for formal methods use and of course just the lack of elegance well then of course you can use Java or C++ it's all available to you yes yeah yeah though you can use Liskov substitution principle and you know all these beautiful things you know it's all there it's like lots of theory and you can hire a bunch of guys from India to do your QA for you it'll be just great you do test-driven development and and it just it just works this works good luck come on I'm looking for a good question to end on dad I didn't call him that I'm just saying if you if you push bit connect that's what you did it's up the same order of magnitude come on what kind of an idiot pitches a business like that it's obviously a Ponzi scheme it's obviously as gam it was just like they weren't even hiding it they just were like hey hey hey big can act it's just like you were just hearing this thing it's like what is going on here you people is Python a good language for blockchain Oh pythons a good programming language in general got a lot of respect from Python in fact my chief of staff she's right now actually taking a Python course it's a great entry point in computer science it's great entry point to get it into the break greater nuances of artificial intelligence and data science as well highly recommended if you're a non programmer to start there great pedagogy good ecosystem wonderful community and you can do a lot of things really quickly that aren't half-bad what is it with Wolfram has with blockchain Wolfram Alpha is the number one supplier of Oracle data on our entire industry so if you want to know something about the world you're probably going to pull it from Wolfram means he's a kingmaker in the Oracle world thanks for keeping it real Charles my people always gonna keep it real come on now kids you should look into big Kinect 2.0 there are more bonuses this time and it all works ha ha your money first that's great yeah did you enjoyed last season of Westworld I haven't seen it yet I've been saving it season three I've actually stayed in an underground bunker and I've prevented people from giving me telling me anything about it so I haven't I know nothing of season three but I will watch it I promise you I hear it's quite different from the last two well that's a good question too ended on what do you think about AI law lawyers I think that is not only a good idea I think it's a moral imperative so here's our problem we have too many lawyers too many laws and we have this incredibly or immoral thing we say I would say the ignorant of the law is no excuse for not following the law okay so imagine this you are a poor person okay in your first generation to go to college or get out of the ghetto you go to the military or you know go do something and make enough money that you actually move somewhere and have a real future and they start a business and then you inadvertently break a regulation some guy comes by put you out of business and they say but I didn't know I said well it doesn't matter ignorance the law is no excuse for not following it if you pass thousands and thousands and thousands of laws every year at the municipal state and federal level it is fundamentally immoral and predatory upon the weakest amongst us to then tell them they have to follow them when they have no means of being able to know that and the government is unwilling to provide them advice about it okay so here's the thing what you need to do is you need to create an AI lawyer and you basically say okay we can have as many laws as we want but until that lawyer is good enough the one we ask it a question it can give us a reasonable response like is what I'm doing illegal if the lawyer says yes it's legal or no it's illegal then the government will give you that as an affirmative fence even if it's wrong and say okay well we screwed up you're off the hook cuz then for free society could actually get clarity and answers and the questions about what's legitimate legal what's not it is fundamentally unfair that I have to hire a New York law firm and pay $600 an hour and fill a conference room of securities lawyers to get an its depends answer after three months it's what we had to do with aetherium we spent a quarter million bucks on that it is just unbelievable to me that that is the barrier to entry for certain fields for FinTech and then your answer is it depends your answer is maybe more likely than not but we're not sure here's our qualification and then you go to the government you say well what's the answer is this legal or not and they say we're not your lawyer go find one it's an amoral system it needs to stop and I seriously seriously seriously would love to see an illegal DSL form that is machine understandable and for our laws to be modeled and the first thing we're gonna find is that they're riddled remember I was talking about formal systems completeness and decidability and consistency we're gonna find that the law is not independent contradictory so inconsistent not complete a whole bunch of questions that are not covered by law and you cannot actually decide on whether things are legal or illegal so it's not a truly good formal system and then we could have a nice big conversation with policy makers of which you like a better legal system and we'll build it we'll build it in the poorest countries in the world and because they have better rule of law and better gov tech they will become the richest nations in the world and then they will put all these formerly rich nations to shame and just like all governments that are in laden with bad systems and being out competed by those with good systems if they don't adapt they will die and that's a good thing it has the great radio announcer use them I look forward to next week balance check is going to be great and I do enjoy your questions we're down to the wire now just a few weeks for the summit a few weeks for the release of Shelley and then that heart Fork August is gonna be a hell of a month with all those blocks being made you earned this thank you Cheers
