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Surprise AMA 06/20/2020

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and we&#39;re live hi everybody this is Charles Hoskinson broadcasting live from warm sunny Colorado always warm always sunny always Colorado except four times it&#39;s not you know I took a logic class many many years ago and the professor reminded me to always speak in tautology z-- because you&#39;re never wrong except for the times you are and you can see my french frock room huh yeah you get a french sitio you just start getting very french about everything you do how&#39;s everybody doing you all having fun it&#39;s been a fun few days I&#39;ve gotten some off the wall crazy Twitter commentary uh in many different directions I&#39;ve never really seen anything like this I I have a few occasions I just blocked somebody over Twitter yeah you know saying how dare you print a new eight out of thin air you&#39;re a horrible human being and then he hashtags the sec and then all these other things so I got a rule if you say you&#39;re gonna sue me or you say you&#39;re gonna report me to law enforcement or crime or some regulatory body I will block you never talk to you ever and there&#39;s nothing you could ever say to get off of my [ __ ] list you&#39;re on my [ __ ] list forever and ever and ever and ever 35 years from now you could be sinking in quicksand I&#39;ll let you sink through okay that&#39;s just how that is you know the amount of misinformation FUD and in just pathetic stuff that i&#39;ve seen in the last 48 hours coming out of this is is extraordinary to me and just shame on the people who are peddling it it&#39;s stupidity beyond belief you know we said hey we have this network we launched back in December and basically a lot of people showed up and turned it from an experiment to a real cryptocurrency now it&#39;s real because it is decentralized it&#39;s run by a very diverse group of actors it&#39;s a full peer-to-peer system and it&#39;s just running and at any time any one of those groups of people a subgroup of them could just make the decision to keep it run and keep it going indefinitely if they wanted to okay I don&#39;t decide that it&#39;s there it&#39;s running that&#39;s what it is now it no law or connected to what we&#39;re trying to do with card ah no there&#39;s a social contract about the existence of the ITN that is coming to an end it&#39;s ended on the 19th and we as a community have to decide is it in our best interest to keep incentivizing the group of people who keep this network alive because perhaps they can provide value to us in the future somehow someway and we can think about it as a community at least until the hard fork occurs and if we can&#39;t come up with anything okay if we can okay that was a whole point somehow that got transformed into we&#39;re creating a new coin it&#39;s gonna split the value of ADA between two things and it&#39;s a wealth transfer - I ohk seriously if this is what you believe you&#39;re an idiot just a pure undiluted idiot get out of crypto you know just get out of crypto and have some goddamn respect it&#39;s it&#39;s so frustrating and annoying you know you can say seven different ways the same thing and no matter what you say people just hear what they want to hear her you know we created something with the ITN and a whole bunch of people showed up and turned it into something else and we as a community have to make a decision is that a value to us and how does that work so that&#39;s a question you might have all kinds of opinions like no it&#39;s of no value to us or yes it&#39;s so valuable that I&#39;ll give you my left hand for it and everything in between okay and it&#39;s okay to disagree it&#39;s okay to have any opinion you want that&#39;s the point of a democratic process but then to say and then to say well because I disagree with you or whoever is presenting what you are so bad that you&#39;ve now become a criminal is it just extraordinary to me and it just shows the childishness of some people in this industry in this space shame on you shame you know this is we have no place for this you know none what so ever so anyway that that was my morning you know I I tried to home every down with a video and maybe that doesn&#39;t work and you know so I just be more direct and more blunt with people the state pool operators are definitely the vast majority of them interested in the prospect of finding something else to do with the ITN they left their pools on and are right now keeping the channel live for no money okay that was their decision not our decision they&#39;re just running at a loss right now and we&#39;ll prepare a hard fork and a vote system and then people who hold it I can make a decision what they want to do whether they want to extend the social contract to include an additional month of compensation for that group of small business owners so that we can find something for them to do or they don&#39;t want to do that it&#39;s a vote and people get to vote okay and we&#39;ll see what happens and if it&#39;s a or B it doesn&#39;t matter to me I say okay it is what it is and we all move on now no matter how that vote turns out a subgroup of those stake pool operators could wake up the next day and say well [ __ ] it we&#39;re just gonna fork it ourselves and change the monetary policy ourselves and create our own coin call card on all classic I can&#39;t stop them understand that I can&#39;t they can go and do that any day they want in any day of the week that&#39;s the point of decentralisation so we as a community have to understand that that&#39;s where we&#39;re at there is no top-down control here I don&#39;t sit in an ivory tower make decisions for people the community makes these decisions now okay that&#39;s why I made my videos on propaganda it&#39;s why I&#39;ve been talking about politics it&#39;s why I&#39;ve been talking about power to the edges it&#39;s why I went around the whole world the 52 countries presentation after presentation after presentation after presentation saying think for yourself and you&#39;re soon going to be in charge and for some people they&#39;re just so insular they can&#39;t they can&#39;t get there and they start thinking oh well that&#39;s great we I agree I agree I love the philosophy so you&#39;re gonna do X right as well even if I wanted to I can&#39;t that&#39;s the point of this is that it&#39;s true a decentralized ecosystem and look I can have an opinion I can try to influence people I can try to tell them hey or B or X or Y or left or right and maybe they listen to me maybe they don&#39;t but if they don&#39;t they&#39;re just gonna do their own thing and understand that sometimes your own thing is not necessarily the thing you want to have happen it&#39;s not necessarily the thing that&#39;s in your financial best interest and that&#39;s the way the world works welcome to diversity welcome to differences of opinion welcome to democratic processes welcome to being part of something that is more than five people that&#39;s just how the world works so uh so yeah I mean I just I know we&#39;ll get there we will you know it&#39;s just a bit of a shock for people when you leave the cradle they they have some difficulty with it and as long as people are civil I&#39;ll be civil as long as people will you know treat me with some modicum of respect I&#39;ll treat them back with respect there are thresholds I have if you cross those thresholds you&#39;re on my [ __ ] list for the rest of your life but outside of that you know overall things are working pretty well I&#39;m just perplexed by some of the beliefs that people have and no matter what we say or we show they don&#39;t seem to actually change their beliefs they&#39;ve just dug in and they&#39;re going for it so much so that they&#39;re creating threads here and tweets here and so forth you have to deal with these and you know it&#39;s the next step in the evolution of cardona we fully knew that this was happening I remember when we started aetherium way back in the day everybody was friends at that beach house in Miami and then money got involved and then it became Lord of the Flies and then all said it was a race for who could get control over those funds and pushed them in whatever direction that they wanted for power and control and you know certain size one and then they for a while what in a certain direction and they went to a different direction and then everybody was friends again and like everything was great till the DAO hack happened and then created a theorem classic that&#39;s what happens when you introduce controversy money power or other things when things go a little bit more nuanced suddenly people have to have an opinion and then all those implicit understandings of where everybody thought that they were on the same side they&#39;re not and they start skewing a little bit great ecosystems can work their way through it great ecosystems find ways to to overcome bad ecosystems they&#39;re just become self-destructive and they spiral into death and so far the overwhelming majority of hartano ecosystem are still friendly and are communicating with respect dignity and that gives me a lot of hope and I know there&#39;s a long way to go and a lot to do but overall this is actually better than my experience is in the past with other ecosystems and communities so that&#39;s that&#39;s quite encouraging I lived through the whole Bitcoin Bitcoin cash thing the etherium etherion classic thing I lived through NXT &#39;z collapse I lived through a lot of stuff in my career the cryptocurrencies space so I&#39;ve seen far far far worse but I laughed sometimes when people say some just batshit crazy things or they hold batshit crazy beliefs is what it is okay so let&#39;s get to your questions it is a wonderful time for an AMA it&#39;s beautiful day outside it&#39;s always always fun to talk to you okay hello Charles from the Russian community privyet can you tell please can we count on the Russia fication of Daedalus and you ROI wallets the foreseeable future I assume you mean localization to Russian language in Cyrillic text so you know I&#39;m pretty happy to say that we have a lot of great Russians in the community for example Alex Tripp annoy did a really really good job in his early days working with iogic a research and that led to score X and it led to ergo and lots of cool things as a consequence of his collaboration with us and we&#39;ve always loved working with our Russian partners where and when that makes sense and it&#39;s a big ecosystem it would be nice to to ensure that we have um localization not just into Russian but also into other dialects we&#39;ve been for example really keen to do something with Korean really keen to do something in Chinese not just for Dedalus but also full and end documentation so when the Treasury opens up I think that it&#39;s going to be good business for people to provide professional localization there is some conversation about community participation the problem is that not a lot of people who are willing to do the work are actually professional translators so you get a huge amount of variance of quality and I can&#39;t read Russian so if you know a community member helps with that localization I can&#39;t read it to know if it&#39;s actually done right or reflects what we&#39;re saying so it&#39;s sometimes it&#39;s a bit problematic so you generally have to use a professional firm or at least somebody that you trust implicitly to do the job correctly you know they can do that so we&#39;ll figure that out you know we already have translated documentation Japanese and we&#39;ve translated to other languages and we do have people on board who actually natively speak these languages actually we have several people at myoglobin who are from Russia and speak Russian or from former Soviet republics and speak Russian fluently as a consequence of that so it would be is something we could actually edit that&#39;s a language pair that we&#39;re quite comfortable with we&#39;re very comfortable with Greek as well and we&#39;re very comfortable with Italian and Spanish and so forth and it would be really cool to have some sometime in some content in Spanish okay and yet we also have a guy here vtc you&#39;ll see in the future you fork your own chain you&#39;re lying to people sold 500 thousand data today need to pay tax for it it&#39;s like okay you completely misunderstood everything we&#39;re doing and now you can&#39;t back down from lies you&#39;re telling people so now you&#39;ve come to my AMA to go continue to lie to people where am I so there&#39;s no economic value right now in testan Aida there&#39;s no one to list that there&#39;s no utility for that chain other than what we decide for it to be and the community that lives of that chain and there&#39;s a large collection of small business owners maintaining that chain right now and we as a community have to make a decision do we wish to compensate them to continue maintaining that because it can provide you additional utility to our ecosystem and that&#39;s a temporary thing you&#39;ve inferred from this that we&#39;re creating a second coin that that second coin will be listed on an exchange and there&#39;s a plan for that there&#39;s not and that that will dilute value out of ADA these are all lies in delusions in your brain but you somehow are so connected to those lies that you have to sell all your ADA then call us all scammers call me a scammer and by the way I&#39;m not even doing this I&#39;m not actually doing anything the community&#39;s making the decision mr. C the community&#39;s making the decision of what they want to do they vote A or B in a vote hasn&#39;t even happened so I&#39;m a scammer and a horrible human being for something that hasn&#39;t even occurred that&#39;s not even a plan that I don&#39;t even decide you&#39;re an idiot you&#39;re just a pure idiot but you can&#39;t admit that because we live in an age where no one backs down when people are challenged and they know they&#39;re wrong they don&#39;t say they&#39;re sorry you&#39;re right what they do is they double down and they say you&#39;re wrong and truth doesn&#39;t matter objectivity doesn&#39;t matter you know it&#39;s just it&#39;s extraordinary you know and I said as an offhand comment if we found use in utility for this system down the road and it was divergent from card on oh yeah of course we could pursue something there you go but that presupposes that it exists beyond the twenty-ninth the community made that decision we found a way to create use in utility that does provide value for Cardno and yes it would be another asset tell me if we created a stable coin wouldn&#39;t that be another asset isn&#39;t the whole point of native assets on card ah no to have many assets on Cardinal doesn&#39;t make a difference if it&#39;s a side chain of Cardinal verses it runs on the primary ledger of Cardinal did you [ __ ] think that through no you didn&#39;t think that through not at all you just want to call somebody a liar you just want to say we&#39;re scammers and bad people go to Twitter and tell people about go to telegram tell people about it tell all your friends about how bad we are are how dishonest we are for something that hasn&#39;t even occurred yet a hypothetical that you disagree with and if you really actually wanted to be productive you could have held on to that data and use it to vote but no you don&#39;t want to do that instead you want to basically have your cake and eat it to make some money off of all the hard work that&#39;s been done and then say we&#39;re all horrible human beings and then go ahead and judge us for things we didn&#39;t do and what are you gonna say you got a rebuttal do you honestly if you&#39;re here you&#39;re in my ma now nothing that&#39;s always what happens but he&#39;ll still be on telegram and still be on Twitter and for the next three years no matter what we accomplish and do he will forever believe we&#39;re an illegitimate bad bad project it&#39;s ego it&#39;s emotion you know you ask yourself why do we have protesters in the streets why do we have so many people so angry why do we have people that can&#39;t talk to each other they talk past each other because people are incapable of listening people are incapable of having a conversation anymore it&#39;s I&#39;ve made a decision based on a very sin thin sliver of information and then I&#39;m going to go with that thin sliver of information and immediately infer value judgments about everything else in the world whether medicine works or not whether a person&#39;s a good person or a bad person whether a company&#39;s a good company or a bad company whether a politician is a good person or a bad person whatever it might be even family members even relationships thin sliver and then for the rest of time I have to hold that opinion and if I violate that opinion somehow well then well you know I know I just can&#39;t do that this is why we&#39;re in so many problems why do I get so caught up on this guys because this only works currencies only works if you work it&#39;s not about me it&#39;s never been about me it&#39;s not about great leadership it&#39;s not about finding somebody on the mountaintop to deliver you and tell you what to do the whole point of what we construct as technology the whole point of how we build stuff is that one day you&#39;re in charge completely of your identity of your vote of your money of all these things and suddenly you actually have to think things through you have to be able to handle the new cognitive overhead the fact that all that stuff that was taken care of for you by banks and governments and third parties who said I&#39;ll just take care of it don&#39;t worry you&#39;re in charge of that now now for me that&#39;s great because it liberates me from the insanity that I live in today this does madness where every single thing is regulated to death there&#39;s doublespeak going on science has become highly politicized and politicized we have the woke virus now it&#39;s okay to protest for one thing but you can&#39;t protest for the other thing you you won&#39;t get a virus if you do that but you&#39;ll get a virus if you do this it&#39;s madness out there and I think the only add antidote is a return to objectivity the only antidote is to remove human beings from the operation of the systems and let the edges be able to decide because I&#39;m ultimately an optimist I have faith in people I believe you eventually can rise to the occasion if you&#39;re not treated like children you&#39;re treated like adults and given enough respect for somebody to say you actually deserve the right to decide for yourself it&#39;s a very libertarian principle and it&#39;s how my country was founded during that time period in 18th century everybody just thought it was preposterous to let the masses run things they say oh no no we have to have privileged betters running things the Divine Right of Kings the the right of nobility the good breeding the good bloodlines they believe this they said if you let these serfs the unwashed masses do things run things vote a set a very limit of whatever you have to give them to prevent them for rebelling within ten years the whole thing will fall apart and suddenly we created a government out of nowhere on the back of a revolution that said no no everybody&#39;s equal everybody has rights everybody should have the ability express themselves and yes someone may elevate to a president but after they leave office they&#39;re just like everybody else that was a unique experiment and then similarly when we talk about crypto currencies we&#39;re doing it all over again we&#39;re treating you like adults and saying it&#39;s okay for you to be in control of your identity your privacy your money these types of things guys it it won&#39;t work it won&#39;t work if you if you can&#39;t think it won&#39;t work if you just live in thin sliver land and you minute that you see something that you don&#39;t like you have a knee-jerk reaction take your toys go home and set everything on fire and call every single person who disagrees with you evil or misguided or as scammer okay it&#39;s um it&#39;s a fundamental truth and the more you realize it the further along we&#39;ll get how many attendees for the summit so far the last time I looked it was around 4,000 my goal is 10,000 I&#39;m gonna go on a big podcast surge and see if we get to 10,000 people can you talk about cross-chain interoperability yeah we actually wrote a paper on cross-chain interoperability and we proved some impossibility results you know the the beautiful thing that we discovered is that while you do need some form of trusted bridges occasionally to make these chains talk to each other the state pool model actually is an extremely robust and nice model to facilitate that so we have all these stateful operators they&#39;re small businesses and they&#39;ll run Hydra channels and you know they&#39;re gonna run Oracle services and random number generation circuits and timestamping businesses and so forth it&#39;s easy for us to keep layering more utilities on and then basically continue giving them more revenue lines especially if native assets pay fees in their own tokens by the way if native assets pay fees in their own tokens as a side note I when you receive your your money for having ADA you know you get your staking rewards you actually also get the transaction fee rewards from all the tokens on the system so not just the state pool operator we&#39;ll get an ETF on all native assets but actually the ADA holder would as well that&#39;s a it&#39;s a really cool concept but anyway you cross chain compatibility is another low-hanging fruit you can think about the operator basically acting as a bridge to facilitate the communication between two or more different chains to move information and assets and then you can come up with all kinds of really cool federated oversight pairings to verify that the system works and in some cases as long as no more than n minus one or dishonest meaning that it&#39;s just one person&#39;s honest the system will still be reliable your math is wrong simply human because we have decay so what happens that you have a high emission rate in the beginning in the first seven years we&#39;ll get the half the rate and yeah there&#39;s long long long long tail that goes on for ever so after a century the area under the curve is basically that 15 billion ADA but you get about half of it in the first seven and then the other half it takes a long time to go through very similar to Bitcoin it took about seven years for half of the admission to be done and now we&#39;re on the other side of that but it&#39;ll take over a hundred and twenty years before block rewards become negligible and people keep asking what is the inflection point you know where will they make money if inflation goes away and that&#39;s transaction fees so after seven years if we&#39;ve done the job correctly we should be a very useful utilized chain with lots of transactions occurring which means that at those blocks are filled with very tons of stuff and every one of those pays a small fee it is valuable they pay a small fee summing that together means that the block reward should be still quite lucrative for the stig full operator so it&#39;ll be a time where you actually make more money from fees than you make from inflation there&#39;s some sort of inflation fee deficit inflection point but it&#39;s just like an oil well by the way if you&#39;re drilling for oil for a few years you get about half of the yield of the well then you get this long tail over like 30 years for the other half it&#39;s the same type of a mission he moderators come on don&#39;t be sleeping greetings from the Turkish community Turkey&#39;s a very beautiful country amazing food amazing people incredible history especially the thousand years of the Byzantine Empire greetings from the United Kingdom there we go are there any major updates planned for Pluto&#39;s beyond what has already been launched yes we will talk about Pluto&#39;s extensively at the at the virtual summit card on a virtual summit you guys are going to like it a lot Michael good to talk to you greetings for the beach in Florida Michaels one of the many doctors that follows card on own is very good for this session he was also a technologist wrote lots of code back in the day it&#39;s a rare combination hello from Ireland Connor how was my how was my Irish accent I did my last AMA did you see it wanted to ask about security audit which is non-static well that happened before the main net fork no we we have an internal auditing team that does that work but we won&#39;t procure an external audit for non-static because I mean the that&#39;s one of those how long is a piece of string type deals you can spend huge sums of money chasing an ever smaller set of concerns and it&#39;s better to run these things out through test nets and formal methods you&#39;ll discover a lot and Haskell does bias a lot of things that C++ and Java just simply don&#39;t have I would like one saw to do a very extensive antenna audit beyond what was done by route 9b and broaden the scope of it but that&#39;s a it&#39;s a bit of a thing Charles do you think transparency is a strength of Cardona wouldn&#39;t the idea to gather all transparency reports like audits and a single page topic transparency that&#39;s a good question they used to have that on the on the webpage the Cardinal foundation web page and I think with the new card out org webpage it&#39;ll be somewhere but it&#39;s a bedrock of the stuff we do it&#39;s a bedrock of the ecosystem as a whole and you know we try to publish everything all of our code is open source every time we have an external audit we always publish that audit report we publish addresses and all kinds of things the problem is that sometimes they&#39;re a little scattered and so it would be nice to put it all into some bucket somewhere but then you know we have to provide some context about it and go through that but overall more transparency the better come on mods do your job Joe Rogan remember our quote guys Rogan after Gogan would you hire nick szabo to work on Goggan smart contracts no Nick&#39;s a brilliant guy I&#39;ve actually met him and interacted with him many times throughout the years and he&#39;s the pioneer who basically first started writing about smart contracts I believe the paper the seminal work came out in 1998 and he was talking about an algorithmic society he often is quoted about wet code and dry code and there&#39;s certainly a lot of value there and I think he&#39;ll like what we do because it&#39;s very close to Bitcoin but it&#39;s like useful Bitcoin that said really the group of people that we need to hit the hardest are the Haskell developers the Haskell community and we know where to look for them what to do to get them so as soon as we have all the capabilities in place we&#39;re going to be super super aggressive with getting getting Haskell developers into the ecosystem and I think you guys will be pretty happy with the output there can you explain the yellow virtual machine yellow was a project done by grigory ro Shu and run time verification and yellow was basically a translation of LLVM merged with concepts from the EVM so it&#39;s a register based assembly virtual machine and because it has a lot of similarities with LLVM it&#39;s very easy for compiler engineers the write compilers to yela the other thing is that it&#39;s mostly EVM compatible so if you write solidity code you can get it to work quite easily on on yella except for the really really bad solidity coat like the dao code for example won&#39;t compile to it and the point of yellow was because we constructed it from semantics meaning that there&#39;s a que definition and you can actually generate the back end from que was to have a universal system for all programming languages functional and imperative they all you have to do to support a new language would be to write the k definition of the language so and that it&#39;d only take a few weeks if you have talented people and good tools and then you register that and then suddenly be able to write smart contracts in that language so you write once a k definition for a version of python and a version of ruby and a version of java and a version of javascript and that all the tooling is just automatically constructed and then use something called semantic space calculation translate that smart contract to run on yella it was an incredibly ambitious piece of computer science we put a lot of money and time into it we didn&#39;t quite hit our KPIs and that&#39;s one of the reasons why it was deprioritized in the roadmap but i have for years been trying to find a way to pull it back in where and when it makes sense and i really really really really hope that we can achieve that somehow this year or next year the RV guys are actually going to come to the virtual summit present about what they&#39;ve accomplished with K and yella since they were with us and it&#39;s a lot and if we could find a way to bring them back in I&#39;m all for it I think it&#39;s just a beautiful enhancement to the roadmap no marketing has been seen for ADA if that was true Sean do you really think we&#39;d be in the top ten I think we&#39;ve done a very good job introducing the concept of the project to the to the ecosystem the challenges that we haven&#39;t really done a great job of explaining how use and utility is going to work its way through but that will happen and it&#39;ll happen commiserate with when the platform is ready for it and it soon is actually Gogan was selected because of Grigory Roshi Goggan was his advisor when he was at UCSD yeah but that&#39;s crypto dot-com coin it&#39;s not a real crypto currency don&#39;t even know what it is it&#39;s just another one of those project tokens what are the odds of seeing Hoskinson on a ballot I am definitely not gonna run for office not in this environment not in any environment I love my life it&#39;s a great life it&#39;s relaxing and enjoyable and you know for the most part people who dislike me they have a financial incentive to dislike me but when I run into people on the streets or they see me they&#39;re very positive and nice you ran for office in the United States first off half of America hates you half of your community hates you you&#39;re not just the other side the other party the guy I disagree with you are evil pure evil undiluted evil Hitler Nazi Satan they just use these terms you know they put your face on on Hitler&#39;s uniform and and that&#39;s your life now that&#39;s before you make any decisions okay then no matter what you do wrong you&#39;re deified by the other side and you can do no wrong so you have horrible conduct and yet they&#39;ll all as long as you&#39;re in power fight for you the minute you&#39;re no longer in power of course they&#39;ll throw you off the side of the rails and if it&#39;s politically convenient to boost you they&#39;ll boost you so and then when you die and if you were popular during your lifetime then everybody tries to tear your corpse out of the grave and pretend like you were their best friend the cult of Ronald Reagan is the most recent example of that so why run for office in that type of environment it&#39;s ego vanity and a desire for power for the sake of power and for what so you can not change things you want to change things you get into office do you actually change it no whether you&#39;re Democrat Republican the system works the same way that&#39;s on a theory and possibly pursuing proc pal you know we actually implemented a variant of Prague pal for another related thing and it&#39;s a good consensus algorithm but the fact that they&#39;re pursuing it tells you that there&#39;s some skepticism about their ability to move to proof of stake it makes no no sense no sense at all to go and do a proof-of-work algorithm if you think your entire eco system is going to move over to a proof of stake algorithm in six months why why would you even think about it why would you even have the conversation it&#39;s a distraction by the time you added it right the code think about it get it ready for integration you&#39;re already on proof of stake in which case you fired all the miners so what you&#39;ve done is given the miners and a basically a better algorithm for a competing chain which will run against your own community the people who didn&#39;t want to move over so so no no I don&#39;t think so it it&#39;s just bizarre to me why they went down that road hi from Iran in Tehran lovely country amazing food beautiful place great academics strong mathematicians is really a shame that Iran is not friends with America you know because it&#39;s a country that actually I&#39;d love to go and visit but unfortunately I can&#39;t thanks for being part of the community it means a lot to me when will we have a game on card on oh you know for the legends of Valor remake I&#39;ve been thinking about legends of Valor a lot actually it&#39;s uh it&#39;s almost like George Washington when he was fighting the Revolutionary War he was always designing Mount Vernon and he was doing various things there sending letters right before battle talking about some Eric irrigation ditch or something to his family so similarly you know when I am waiting for a meeting or you know I have a little bit of free time I&#39;ve been reading books on magic systems I&#39;ve been reading books on game design and you know also just doing an historical analysis of all the major games that have come out since the 1980s kind of walking through capabilities and thinking about different game design mechanics like the concept of permanent death and the concept of permanent injury there are some games that have that like Diablo famously had the hardcore mode if your character dies erases your save and your character&#39;s dead forever and there&#39;s a lot of games that have done that permanent injury means like someone blows off your hand it doesn&#39;t just regrow you know you actually have to find a way to get a new hand or else you live with that disability for the rest of the game these are really interesting game design mechanics and it&#39;s something that is under explored underappreciated good magic systems as well or under explored and underappreciated they have something called Vance Ian&#39;s magic systems where basically those are like D&amp;D where you have spell levels and spell amounts so you memorize a set amount of spells and then you exhaust that resource or you use mana and you exhaust that resource but there&#39;s alternative ways to do magic systems that don&#39;t require that so there&#39;s a lot of stuff to think about when you actually start looking into these nuts and bolt so then you have to think about the game world environment so is the terrain D for me at the player can break stuff like trees and wood and buildings and so forth minecraft is a great example of like ubiquitous deformity outside of the bedrock the very base of the world every single block in the game can be influenced by the player character it&#39;s very simplistic game mechanics but a very prominent game and there&#39;s been some third-person shooters the first person shooters excuse me that have come out over the years that actually allow you to to destroy everything I think there was one on Mars or something like that&#39;s in that setting I can&#39;t remember the name of it right now so deformable terrain is a really interesting game mechanic because all the things you traditionally do like you know there&#39;s a puzzle you&#39;d have to solve to open the door to get to the chest to reveal the treasure a normal game mechanic the player has to complete that puzzle to get to the chest and game mechanic where terrain is the formula Bowl you can destroy it the player can just simply break the wall to get to the chest you know and whether that&#39;s good or bad is you know hard to say so so there&#39;s a lot to think about there and then there&#39;s mechanics like survival one of the things that was really exciting about the original game of a original legends of Valor game was that it was a very harsh game experience so basically you just you just arrived in middle dwarf you really have no guidance you don&#39;t know what you&#39;re doing you don&#39;t know how the game works you have limited money and limited resources and your food and water bars are going down you have nowhere to stay nowhere to sleep and just kind of figure it out you know so it takes a few playthroughs to get enough game experience before you actually get to a point where you can just survive in this place which was just a life fold for a 1992 game I really enjoyed that it would be cool to replicate that experience with modern game mechanics of really showing that you&#39;re you&#39;re nothing divinity to original sin that was there was another where the player was in a very harsh condition so you&#39;re kind of taking prisoner on a ship ship sinks and you wash up on shore you&#39;re like in a prisoner&#39;s collar you have the rag you know clothing on and it&#39;s hard under the normal game settings to actually survive or like you could be attacked by anything and those things are pretty challenging to kill probably the hardest game was wizardry for it to actually be able to survive so there&#39;s a lot of that to think about like do you want to just have a hardcore mode for for games or do you do you want to you know have it be more casual I think that games have moved in such a casual direction in such a tight scripted direction that it would be refreshing to have a completely unorthodox magic and gameplay system and they have a completely unorthodox games world where you have permanent death permanent injury and also it takes a few playthroughs before you get to a point where you actually comfortably survive and maybe you&#39;re never quite comfortable you know maybe we can always figure out a way for that so in terms of can we merge that with blockchain mechanics certainly on the DRM side it can be done you can issue a game license token means you also can sell your game to other people and create royalty systems for that and then of course we could consider perhaps in-game special items that only appear as a consequence of having certain things if you actually have a token you can actually get those in-game items so that&#39;s kind of like a micro transaction model but it can be facilitated with a blockchain so once I&#39;ve created it it&#39;d be quite a bit of fun to actually see if we can find some cool blockchain stuff that can be done and write some sort of smart contract on card I know that can interface with the game another option would be actually kampala note of card on Oh with the legends of Valor game so anybody who installs legends of valor is actually running a node and basically supporting the network by providing peer-to-peer and relay services not even knowing it perhaps so you know they just put up the game play the video game but in the system tray is just sitting there maintaining the work so even if it doesn&#39;t provide a direct monetary value to the system it would provide a resilience and support value because the video game we actually keep card on all alive cool stuff the name was Red Faction that&#39;s right it was Red Faction that&#39;s correct how can one play legends of valor oh that&#39;s a good point since I own the game now I can I can always do that yeah if you guys can just google legends of Valar download it&#39;s about abandoned where and other places consider the original game to be open source at this point I&#39;ve open sourced it congratulations so you can download it the old copies for free and play it on dos box and you don&#39;t have to pay any royalties it&#39;s all yours there you go see these are cool EMA&#39;s like stuff is actually done in the AMA you&#39;re in for quite a treat did she ever play ultima online there was Ultima Underworld Ultima 8 Ultima 7 there was a lot of Altimas it was a hell of a hell of a game all of the Altimas ascension wasn&#39;t as where it needed to be it was Ultima 9 legends of valor looks like Elder Scrolls 1 arena otice you&#39;re actually right it was a big inspiration for Howard to create the Elder Scrolls he played legends of Valor before he created it so some of the things that were in arena were actually based on legends of valor legends valor was the first open-world RPG and if they had just a few more game mechanics and the game was a little bit more sophisticated it probably would have sold blockbusters and it would have become Elder Scrolls they are intending many sequels fact legends of Valor full title includes volume 1 implying that they were going to be multiple legends of Valor but unfortunately they never they never got around to it Charles will you still do a maze when you&#39;re filthy rich like Jeff Bezos I&#39;m already pretty rich and I&#39;m doing AMAs my lifestyle is really not going to change regardless of how much money I have at this point so yes I&#39;m going to keep doing AMAs regardless and this is another reason why I&#39;m going to stay out of politics you know Joe Rogan has this beautiful uneasy peace with the media in mainstream society where he&#39;s basically just ignored by most of the power brokers and he&#39;s allowed to talk even though he has 20 million people who listen to him regularly and sometimes he takes very controversial positions because they understand the implications of going to war with them so he doesn&#39;t say too much about them they don&#39;t say too much about him and he gets to be Joe Rogan that&#39;s a good position to be in it really is the minute that you get to political or you become too inconvenient then you know the politics of personal destruction kick in and they go at you and then everything you&#39;ve ever done said will be scrutinized and then people reinterpreted the most negative least empathetic possible and destroy you Charles you should work on remastering command &amp; Conquer general zero our generals was terrible that was a cash grab from ei Charles do women and more possessions make you happier no happiness comes from within you should remake Deus Ex Dennis X is actually being maintained by a pretty good studio you know I really liked human Revolution and mankind divided they were quite a lot of fun yes I&#39;ll go on Rogan Rogan after Gogan you know you want you want to have the right hook right infrastructure you only get one shot so make it count there&#39;s a bit of strategy when you go on those types of shows should I ever read Steve Jackson or Ian Livingston&#39;s books I may have refresh me the titles they wrote I don&#39;t think so though the they don&#39;t ring a bell Charles were you a narc a kid like me yeah I played gauntlet remember gauntlet the four players and the old x-men arcade game yeah yeah when I was a kid Maui we had this and still open I went Maui not too long ago and I had a chance to see it it&#39;s called the Fun Factory and it was actually in the Kamiya F mall over in Kahului and it&#39;s still there and they still have all those arcade games I played when I was 6 years old and I&#39;ve built gaming PC&#39;s to answer your question greetings from Ecuador a beautiful country one of the most beautiful countries in the world from Okinawa Japan one of the healthiest places in the world Okinawa and also one of the most beautiful it&#39;s a hidden gem of Japan good to have you here have I ever been to Romania Bogdan yes many times I love Romania it&#39;s a beautiful country fact a prominent Romanian has made major contributions to our ecosystem Gregorio Shu he was originally from Romania I also love Bulgaria Charles are you in touch with David Schwartz of ripple Dave and I know each other and we occasionally banter from time to time I believe we&#39;ve met in person once or twice he&#39;s a nice guy very nice guy new-money was the security guy at at ripple and then it became the CTO I believe he used to actually be part of the NSA can you talk about Caitlyn Long&#39;s bank I will let Caitlyn long do that herself she&#39;s one of the smartest and best people in the cryptocurrencies space bar none one of the most qualified CEOs and you know if we ever had to elect somebody go talk to the US government on behalf of crypto I think she&#39;s actually the best person out of everybody said Andreas aside said Brian Armstrong everybody I think she&#39;s actually the best person to have that conversation and you know she&#39;s proven the work that she did in Wyoming is plenary and continues to be plenary and she&#39;s frankly changing not only that entire state but the entire political reality of that state and has made it a very friendly place for crypto businesses to operate but with of course the principles of rule of law you can&#39;t go there to do crazy things but you can go there to run a legitimate business and run it well and not have to worry what do you think about the SEC chairman leaving his position you know that&#39;s a really interesting thing I got blindsided by that I think it was yesterday I heard the news and I think it&#39;s a contentious leave so the Southern District of New York&#39;s Attorney General or District Attorney excuse me I think is being fired and he&#39;s also investigating Trump at the same time just extraordinary to me that you can fire the person investigating you and now Jay is trying to take that job who replaces him is a big open question it&#39;s so political and contentious right now I don&#39;t even know if they necessarily could get Senate approval for that position so it&#39;s it&#39;s hard to say it&#39;s hard to say it could go either way could be very Pro or very bad for our space I know that Trump is not a huge fan of cryptocurrencies he&#39;s never been it&#39;s bizarre because so many people on our space actually like Trump or at least support him or at least understand him and then he goes and pisses all over our space whenever he has the opportunity and Bolton&#39;s recent book has numerous sections and where he he heard Trump basically say hey what a week banning this one are we taking this down you know we need to destroy crypto so so that&#39;s sad he had a unique opportunity to do things a little differently and ironically crypto actually agrees with a lot of his monetary views like he&#39;s actually a gold guy and then thinks about sound money so why then why then would he hate our space I guess it&#39;s just a lack of information should I move your head my headquarters to Wyoming absolutely Wyoming is a beautiful place Charles you read any research on computational social choice theory yeah there&#39;s a lot of that stuff and you know there&#39;s also social physics and these things this concept of taking sociology and network theory and complexity theory and merging all these things together and then you try to actually model social systems in some way that provides some degree of productivity without having to know the entire world so in other words you can use simple rules to reconstruct a complex system and then you basically can reason about how that complex system is going to behave whether it be epidemiological stuff where diseases are spreading or economic systems or political revolutions whatever that might be let&#39;s see we should send max Kaiser to Congress yeah max is an interesting guy - I like max a lot max is great and Stacy&#39;s great - Max and his wife they&#39;ve been so kind to me I and they&#39;ve always been friendly and we have great conversations both on and off the camera and I&#39;ve always enjoyed watching his show when I where and what I have the time now the dogs are actually the best security system in the world they always let you know when someone&#39;s pulling up Charles what&#39;s your favorite alcoholic drink well I&#39;ve been dry this whole year haven&#39;t had drinks since December I picked a hell of a year to be dry I do a dry year in a wet year it&#39;s whiskey I love single malt whiskey mostly Scottish McAllen and Glenmorangie and the Japanese stuff Yamazaki and Hibiki still on keto yep I go from Quito Akito on keno off-key doe some weeks not Kido yeah Trump is definitely not about sound money but he actually was a supporter of the gold standard many times throughout his political career okay let&#39;s keep going ever been to Newcastle UK I&#39;d love to hear you attempt my accent what do you sound like a [ __ ] Andrew I&#39;ve heard Brad Pitt try that Charles went mountain expedition yes I I will go to Norway hopefully in August with some Norwegians to go visit some of the old places and mountains that my forefathers went to long time ago kind of a bit of a pilgrimage Charles do you like trout love trout trout fishing is a lot of fun catfishing is my favorite do it early in the morning get up 4 or 5 a.m. get some leeches or some blood bait and just go sit out there on the shore throw the lines in you get these beautiful catfish put a mosquito candle because the mosquitoes will eat you alive otherwise we&#39;ll prizm be released by the end of the year yes before the end of the year yeah it&#39;s but you don&#39;t want to go fishing at 2:00 a.m. come on now [ __ ] is Irish Charles do you recommend a specific course to learn Python you know I might actually create one myself I&#39;ve been thinking about creating a series on critical thinking but a lot of people inside Maya Yamazaki and Hibiki Hibiki is one of the most famous whiskies in the world one of the best amazing Hibiki harmony it&#39;s about a hundred a bottle you&#39;ll never go back it&#39;s as good as a $500 bottle of Scottish whiskey there&#39;s a few things that peed it but anyway I might create a critical thinking course and actually cite a lot of great great books that I&#39;ve read throughout the years talk a bit about data science and other things and statistics yeah but it would be fun to do a programming course as well just time time time time never have the time Irish whiskey beats it yeah well 18 Jameson 18 is really smooth a hundred bucks a bottle - that&#39;s a good sweet spot for good whisky you need to revisit your monuments video you know I was speaking in particular about the concept of a very large mob burning down the Lincoln Memorial because that would be such a significant event that it would be a moment where everybody could take a step back and reflect on what the hell&#39;s happening in society it&#39;s almost like a catharsis like when the son of Hussein statue collapsed or the old communist monuments were torn down to Romania or other places that&#39;s a that&#39;s a singular thing and it gives society a timeout and you can always repair the monument and then basically have a conversation about what are we going to do moving forward what happened with the grant statue is that basically now every monument every statue of any person is being subjected to such an onerous contemporary standard that if they peed their pants when they were 5 years old then the statues got to go down and they were just basically destroying these statues destroying statues of people that obviously were not racists grant freed slaves he killed Confederate people you know he when he was president was truly tested yeah II was 1868 where he had to deal with reconstruction South and send the army and to protect blacks so that they could actually vote and exercise their democratic freedoms and protect black businesses he had to deal with lynching mobs he had to deal with the surgence of the KKK and actually shoot them he had to deal with juries that refused to convict people for killing people because they were killing blacks and basically have the federal government step in this was not a racist person it&#39;s quite the opposite was person trying to protect the weakest amongst us and fought and by the way he was married to a woman whose father owned slaves and he easily could have joined the Confederacy he had all the connections and hookups for it and his his father would have gotten him probably a kernel ship or a general ship and the in the Confederacy but it was an unthinkable act for him to do that he was loyal to the Union through and through and help win the civil war for the side that should have won and did win but yet his statue was torn down like everyone else&#39;s statue so then you have to ask at what point has a threshold been crossed and firmly I believe that now these protests have morphed into less about anger and outrage about events that are occurring and more about a Marxist political movement that basically wants to destroy all of American history and our entire system burn our institutions to the ground and replace them with basically like a neo communist regime and divide all of us it&#39;s extremely dangerous and if you actually read the rhetoric in the things they&#39;re asking for the things they want to do there&#39;s some people in this movement want to charge a white tax so if you&#39;re white you actually have to pay more taxes that&#39;s not the America I grew up in to say that one race should be singled out and basically punished for things that people did a long time ago you know in Judea Christian law very different from the Code of Hammurabi the Babylonian code the Babylonians the Sumerians and the other Mesopotamian cultures believe that the sins of the father were also the sins of the son so if the father skipped out of that debt you could actually execute the children for that judeo-christian law was one of the first legal codes around that said you are your own person so if your father does something that doesn&#39;t necessarily mean the sons a bad person you can&#39;t execute him for that so when he now living a bizarre standard were people who are long long dead five generations dead the things that they&#39;ve done apparently are our responsibility and we&#39;re at fault for it and we have to be punished for it or pay for it and you know we just have no notion of proportionality or the fact that things reset every generation and yeah there&#39;s certainly some systemic and institutional problems that do exist but I would argue that these institutional problems are less racial and they&#39;re more about stat ISM and more about power structures police kill white people too I remember a swatting incident years ago where a guy was playing xbox and somebody thought it&#39;d be funny to call the SWAT teams on him and say that he had hostages the police showed up and they was on the ground on his belly and told to crawl and the police officer kept giving him increasingly more confusing instructions and eventually his pants started falling down so he reaches to pull up his pants and then while on his belly he&#39;s gunned down by a police officer holding an ar-15 that officer still has his job and is still basically living life just fine and even being paid trauma pay for for shooting this person because he apparently went through a traumatic event so not only does he have his job he gets paid money for the privilege of murdering somebody on their belly after he gave him confusing instructions so with that racism it was a white cop and a white person no it&#39;s the militarization of the police and it&#39;s a lack of accountability of that force so it&#39;s completely legitimate to say that that institution needs reform but to say the only reason the institution needs reform is because a particular group of people have been harder hit than any other group of people that&#39;s lights just like saying the symptom is the disease it&#39;s not it&#39;s a it&#39;s it&#39;s a flaw in thinking and unfortunately what always happens with political movements is that the most dangerous and radical of political movements will always try to attach themselves to the most extreme and emotional events that happen in society and then use that emotional event that really pisses people off as justification for radical change and that radical change is not what the vast majority of us signed up for if you think that communism is great then go get the American people to vote and go change the US Constitution to enable it but if you don&#39;t don&#39;t allow the pain suffering and tragedy of other people to allow you to somehow sneak it in through the back door and do a bait and switch and say it&#39;s for our greater good that&#39;s what the Castro&#39;s do and these other horrible people and it&#39;s really disgusting to see what this is descended into and it&#39;s a shame too just like the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street and all of these other movements that we witnessed last 20 years these were great self-reflective opportunities for the United States to take a step back slow down for a bit and really ask itself what the hell is going on and what are we doing and who do we want to be as a country and instead like always the movements are being co-opted by the worst amongst us to basically extract money and power from the most vulnerable and weakest amongst us it&#39;s got to stop at some point Max Keiser does not like all coins that&#39;s not true max max does take credit for being the guy who broke etherium two people I was the guy who introduced it he just doesn&#39;t like and he also created his own altcoin max coin you never say you don&#39;t like all coins when you&#39;ve created your own all coin the Austrian or the Chicago School Austrian economics for the wind I&#39;m more of a neo Austrian guy I think that if you could combine that with a lot of ideas we&#39;ve learned from complexity theory there&#39;s some cool stuff there no max coin was a real thing max coin was a real thing I might resurrected just to just to do something with just just a mess with max Charles what are your thoughts about a crypto ban in developing nations like India will they ever adopt it yeah of course they&#39;re banning it cuz they can&#39;t control it and they understand that if it propagates it will overthrow the nepotism and social hierarchy that they&#39;ve set up anytime somebody bans something that&#39;s good for the poorest and weakest amongst us they ban it because they want to preserve the status quo they want to preserve their dictatorships they want to preserve their social order and it&#39;s always to the detriment of the weakest and it&#39;s to the benefit of the strongest and of course they will ban it citing protection of the poorest Thomas woods actually created that law Tom woods is an interesting guy Charles you&#39;re brilliant the gold standard is a joke I&#39;m actually inclined to agree don&#39;t actually need the gold standard but what you do need is consistency in your monetary policy the whole point of the gold standard was to tether your monetary policy to something you couldn&#39;t debase or manipulate because there&#39;s too much temptation you used the power of the printing press señores to basically destroy your economy because you get a massive short-term benefit for a huge long term cotton once that oftentimes short-term politicians don&#39;t don&#39;t have to pay yeah money printer Gober six trillion dollars quantum dot RNA vaccines that&#39;s above my pay grade is it possible to use the ITN for a stable coin we could definitely do stable coin experimentation on the ITN and that&#39;s a great example of a potential use case in utility so let&#39;s spend all of July talking about it as a community and I think we have a great dialogue about it if we preserve the ITM and that&#39;s your decision not mine Charles what we do if the US bands card on oh then the non-us parts of my organization will continue working on it and you know I as the CEO will continue doing what I can to support it human if I&#39;m in personal risk and I would rather go to jail than deal with a society that bans something like card on oh because then I know that the government&#39;s lost legitimacy and it&#39;s only a matter of time before it falls you know at some point you have to take a stand everybody has a threshold everybody has something for me about mass you know I find myself not wearing a mask as much anymore I used to do it because I said okay well it calms people down and it&#39;s a sign of respect and you know it perhaps it has some social benefit and you know maybe it does have a medical benefit at least it can&#39;t harm you know or at least it can&#39;t harm others and then when 1,200 epidemiologists and doctors and other people signed a letter saying that we should allow these protests to continue and not cite coronavirus as a reason to stop them but other protests are wrong that&#39;s when I that was my breaking point I did a video on periscope and I basically said a threshold has been crossed and all these people who assert to be medical experts have now lost legitimacy I am NOT a doctor but I know enough about medicine to know that viruses aren&#39;t smart enough to be able to decide what your politics are before they affect you and make decisions of whether your cause is just or not the entire reason they said don&#39;t do these protests is that the young people doing protests the middle-aged people doing protests go home and when they go home they infect mom and dad and grandpa and grandma and if we allow them to occur on a large scale it could kill millions of people if coronavirus is deadly okay well I&#39;ll give you that but then you can&#39;t say that protest a somehow won&#39;t do that but protest be will when protest a has hundreds of thousands of people densely packed together for hours if not days with limited personal protective equipment sharing water bottles sharing food talking to each other without masks on and that&#39;s completely fine and legitimate no problem at all and a lot of those people are very young so they won&#39;t really feel sick they&#39;ll go out while sick and they&#39;re poor a lot of them so they live with mom and dad they live with Grandma grandpa so when they spread the disease to all those people so you&#39;re basically saying people who didn&#39;t consent to getting sick people who weren&#39;t there in the protest exposing their expressing their voice are now getting hurt so for me that was the threshold you know and we all have thresholds but that was the one where I said okay you&#39;ve lost all legitimacy until you apologize and admit to the blood on your hands or say that you lied about coronavirus being damaging or dangerous you pick one you have to pick it you no longer have any legitimacy you&#39;re now the Soviet Union during Chernobyl okay for the rest of my life I will believe that about these people and at some point after investigations are held they will be held accountable if not through legal means then through economic means or through social shame but I will never forget ever I&#39;ll be 70 and remember their names and use my considerable resources to make sure that everybody remembers them as well it is morally wrong either to destroy the economy killing millions of people through starvation and suicide and lack of medical treatment or two if they&#39;re right about it being a dangerous disease okay then to tell people it&#39;s okay to go spread that disease to the most vulnerable and weakest amongst us who did not consent to these things or else they would be right there in the protest taking those things into their own hands both of these are wrong horrifically morally wrong the minute they put their name on the letter they have blood on their hands one way or the other so that was a threshold for me the banning of crypto is another threshold for me I just won&#39;t consent I don&#39;t want to live in a society that does these things because none of this is matters because then the next thing that is just take it from you it&#39;s like being a Russian billionaire when Putin was purging people and consolidating power if he weren&#39;t in his political in our circle you get goo logged okay they weren&#39;t nice guys but you know they had these beautiful estates and these all the stuff that had accumulated in Maseratis and Ferraris and Lamborghinis and private jets they wake up the next day they&#39;re in Chains in a prison cell it means nothing if you don&#39;t have rule of law and constitutional consistency and that you actually have some notion of objectivity and truth one of the things that&#39;s happened because of academia a plank of academia is there was a war on objectivity and though there was a war on truth there was a war on established scientific process and we just started getting to a situation where up is down left his right things that we thought were true were no longer true and they can be redefined at arbitrarily many times and if you disagree you&#39;re a horrible evil human being and must be destroyed must lose your job we are seeing people who oppose these protests now suffering fallout where they just say hey maybe this isn&#39;t a good idea you shouldn&#39;t pull these statues no I&#39;m sorry you can&#39;t be a principal anymore oh I&#39;m sorry you can&#39;t work for the Federal Reserve anymore that&#39;s a threshold and we&#39;re getting dangerously close to the same tactics that were used in total tellurian societies like the Soviet Union where economists who were collecting data on how bad the Soviet economy was we&#39;re deathly afraid to let any of that leak because they knew they&#39;d get gulag if if it got out and they had to publish articles saying the opposite No full well that they were fake but they were scared of the consequences of saying the truth or at least their perception of the truth we should never aspire to live in a society that that does this to people and cryptocurrencies are basically an instrument of necessity if the government was doing everything perfectly people were trusting each other working well together and society was great they wouldn&#39;t exist they exist because we have lost the more legitimacy and the stability that we&#39;ve come to rely upon for society to function properly and they will continue to get stronger and more pervasive the more madness that we get and at some point you just have to make some decisions to disobey and this is the great test of our time you yeah Str point about friends in Brazil digging holes by the thousands if you&#39;re right and okay even perhaps you are maybe that is the case I&#39;m not taking a position on it then ask yourself isn&#39;t right then to say it&#39;s okay for millions of people without personal protective equipment to be densely packed together for hours and hours and hours where they have a very high probability of exacerbating the epidemic and then going home and spreading it to their parents and grandparents who weren&#39;t there and didn&#39;t consent to that is that a good thing is that morally justified and as a public health official is it your duty to say that you shouldn&#39;t do that and they should stop and find another way to express themselves or would you sign that document saying that that&#39;s okay why stay in the US then why not go somewhere else cuz it&#39;s my home my father home of my grandfather you don&#39;t leave home you make it better you fight and sometimes you win sometimes you lose but if you just run away it&#39;s cowardice you know I don&#39;t have a respect for people that go in expatriate as bad as it gets this is what I got and I was born here I&#39;m an American I&#39;ll die in America I&#39;ll die on American soil one way or another and I hope it gets better and I&#39;ll do what I can to make it better but I&#39;m not going to abandon the country that created me hi Charles I was thinking about buying a horse for myself and my daughter what breed would you suggest well Jim how old is your daughter did you send the rock pie to that one kid the periscope video yeah actually we we were gonna send an Intel nook to them which is a much more powerful computer than Arak Pyatt of similar size but Intel makes them and I&#39;ll check was Rod Alexander about that Justin but I know that rod had a chance to ping him and his son and actually I think we&#39;re going to invite them to come speak about their experiences at the virtual summit but thanks for reminding me I delegated it to rod and we&#39;ll make sure that we we look into that but I upgraded it from a rock pie to an Intel look it&#39;s a few hundred dollars more but the kid can use it for his a lot more than just staking Haden so I figured why not 11 years old you&#39;re okay might be a little big but I love Friesians Friesians are great horses you know quarter horses are good too Arabians are quite nice they&#39;re a little smaller you know Mongolian ponies are so cool I ride them all the time whenever I&#39;m in Mongolia there&#39;s a perfect size for an eleven-year-old they live a long time they&#39;re real stubborn I then but they&#39;re they&#39;re super loyal horses and you can&#39;t kill them no matter what you do to him they were built to survive and the harshest of conditions so it&#39;s a good horse to have some breeds of horses are super pretty but they&#39;re very temperamental and they have tons of health problems just like dogs Kauai Maui Maui Maui Maui Maui is born on Maui Maui pride ever been to Brazil yes Sao Paulo and Rio need Rio de Janeiro I love Brazil do you have to get massive vaccine shots to travel Mongolia no no not at all Mongolia is a great place highly highly recommended traffic is terrible I used to joke I was well I was a half serious that it took me four hours to go from the airport to the centre of Ljubljana badr which is only 20 kilometers and I said if this ever happens again I&#39;m just going to ride horses from the from the airport to the city and by the way you can do that in Monaco yeah it&#39;s one of the few places I&#39;ve gotten there about two hours on horseback Friesians are very elegant have you ever written in Icelandic pony no I want to know they&#39;re beautiful Charles your fascination with the Middle East is intriguing is there any reason behind that I&#39;m not particularly fascinated over any other region I mean the Mesopotamian culture was just absolutely extraordinary and thousands of years of unique history there and they for their time were the most sophisticated civilizations how&#39;s polymath going I successfully completed my consulting-room I signed a one-year agreement and completed that and now they&#39;re building polymesh and I wish him well and I think they&#39;re gonna do a good job with it hope they do give him a lot of advice do you have a degree in history now I study mathematics but I love history there&#39;s a lot of magical things to do in history Charles have you ever been to Hydra yep Shanghai and Beijing and that&#39;s pretty much yet never in the countryside unfortunately will a Thai have stos yeah we will support permission to ownership for security tokens what are your thoughts on Elrond you know I don&#39;t know too much about the project but they seem to have some good people and they&#39;ve been very nice to me so I have nothing negative to say about them and one of these days when I have the time I&#39;ll dig deeper into what they&#39;ve done there&#39;s just a lot of projects out there and to do proper due diligence does take a lot of time that said you can tell a lot about a project based upon where they come from and their community and how friendly they are and when they tend to be open welcoming and friendly it&#39;s a good sign it&#39;s a good first indication what are your thoughts of a Zulu quoi they&#39;ve been the opposite of Elrond the only exposure I have are people who are in that community spamming my Twitter and reddit and other things basically telling me how they&#39;ve already solved every problem that we seek to solve and we&#39;re [ __ ] and they&#39;re great I mean if that&#39;s what you do then I don&#39;t even take the time to read anything about you I mean I&#39;m congratulations you&#39;ve already beat me so why do you even care Charles why 45 billion ADA because 49 billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine eight it just was not enough and forty five billion in one ADA was too much not an emotional reaction what do you think about the merits of their work well you know North of Eden here&#39;s the problem time is finite life is short and there are thousands of cryptocurrencies thousands of projects and it does take quite a bit of time effort an opportunity cost to do diligence on a project so I have to make decisions of what which ones do we look at and obviously if there&#39;s a strong commercial adoption of a project regardless if I like it or not I&#39;ll look into it because I want to understand why are they successful and why did they achieve what they&#39;ve achieved but if they&#39;re a small project and they&#39;re not particularly successful in terms of network effect or value that I have to have a reason to actually look into them and either because I hear through the grapevine that there&#39;s something really interesting about what they&#39;ve done and usually it&#39;s because I&#39;ll read one of their papers because there&#39;s all kinds of papers being published all the time to ePrint or some other source and you know something will come to me and I said oh I really admire that that&#39;s really cool stuff like ava avalanche is an example of that where I know him in and I met him many times we talked over Twitter from time to time and he&#39;s a good researcher and he writes good papers and he&#39;s a good booster of that project so when I heard about it I said well I should read the paper and I should look at what they&#39;re doing and so I&#39;ll actually do a deep dive but if I don&#39;t have a personal connection or I haven&#39;t seen anything that&#39;s from that side that really draws me in the only reason I&#39;ll even look at it at that point is because I have positive warm fuzzy feelings about the community and I say well you know there&#39;s got to be some reason why they&#39;re so nice and so interesting to talk to like Zen caches great example of that I really like rob and Ralph and all the other people there the horizon community is wonderful so I&#39;ll spend some time there but if the community just shows up and says we solved everything you guys are all idiots everything you&#39;ve done is terrible we&#39;re brilliant you&#39;re stupid you know why do you even bother we&#39;re gonna beat all of you it&#39;s like okay alright well have a nice day you know I just don&#39;t have time for it now maybe that&#39;s naive maybe that&#39;s counterproductive maybe they do have all that stuff and their arrogance is justified but then you have to ask well why haven&#39;t they gotten mass adoption and they&#39;re in the top ten then Charles not sure if this has been answered yet but will you be able to steak from the Dedalus main net yes you&#39;ll be able to state from Dedalus you&#39;ll be able to delegate to a steak pool from Dallas there&#39;s a whole Center for that and we&#39;ll also have those capabilities can arrogance ever be justified yeah sure there&#39;s plenty of super arrogant brilliant people out there that do amazing work and it&#39;s never a positive yeah you know it&#39;s one of those situations where they succeed despite themselves not because of themselves arrogance will only ever hurt you doesn&#39;t help you do you have to have a lot of ego and a lot of personality to believe that you can run a company and you can succeed when you walk into an endeavor that has a failure rate of more than 90% in five years the fact that you succeed and other people don&#39;t it has a bit of survivorship bias and ego attached to it so you always have to keep that in check as a founder of a company and as a successful academic can you recommend any books or resource to study cryptography introduction to modern crypto from John Katz wonderful book probably the Bible of introduction to crypto hi Charles are we expecting any updates and developer documentation soon yeah around the 30th is when they&#39;re scheduled we&#39;re working real hard on that have you ever heard of the Bolivian silver mine and potosi yeah should or each show thus mountain of silver and also the mountain that eats men I probably more have died there than any other place in Bolivia for remaining I have heard of it it&#39;s also mentioned in the ascent of money it&#39;s a great book come on give me some good questions what Charles what do you think about promoting car down on the chimpanzee community Kent can animals own car Donal we actually thought about creating a token that would represent like image a reverse life insurance policy where a community would make money based on keeping certain rare animals alive so it was basically an anti-poaching measure measure so let&#39;s see have a rhino and as long as the Rhinos rock walking around and living you everybody around the Rhino who&#39;s in the the neighborhood who&#39;s like the custodian of it will get a payment but as soon as the rhino perishes then the payment stops so the community has a basically a financial incentive to keep poachers out so that&#39;s I think the closest you could ever get to animal ownership of a crypto but it is an intriguing economic concept of poaching is an economic phenomena then anti poaching should certainly be as well and if the incentives are stronger on one side than the other it should actually prevent it how often you check the top 10 coins I Jeff Cohen market cap about once a day sometimes twice once in the morning once at night mostly because big movements in price or indication of some macro event or some news event and so it&#39;s a good super compressed way of looking at the industry from a slice and saying did something happen like if we all go way into the red or raw way in the green or one coin is just way up then you say okay something happened and then you can kind of dig into that by the way that interim our modern crypto get the second edition of Liddell and Yehuda Lyndell and John Katz&#39;s but the second edition is really good first editions fine to Cody is coming to the summit if you want to hear about what Cody&#39;s doing attend the virtual summit what is the meaning of life you know Jordan Peterson used to say find something that is so meaningful that any amount of suffering would be a small price to pay to do that thing so that&#39;s probably the meaning of life which of the Millennium mathematics problems will be solved by blockchain none but if we do the key adidas bra program if we actually do that it might actually create a strong enough incentive to bring enough people in to actually solve some of these Millennium problems well hello from South Carolina for those of us who plan on sticking by a ledger you&#39;ll be able to actually in the hardware wallet center of Daedalus State with your ledger device really like your áááá on the absurdity of CEOs trying to maintain a politically correct public face and that&#39;s the problems like they have no values just be yourself you know if you&#39;re gonna go out there and lead people they have to know who&#39;s there and have to know where you stand they might hate you for it but it ultimately is just a far better way of conducting yourself and the other side of it is if people accept you for who you are you have much stronger relationship and much more empathy with the people that you lead and you aspire to lead and they are willing to give you a much better benefit of the doubt than if you&#39;re a hollow person who just uses corporate speak and diarrhea is all this nonsense that we&#39;ve seen it&#39;s really sickening you know I I&#39;m friends Silicon Valley who works in the HR department of a company there and I won&#39;t mention the company but he had an employee who dresses like a cat here&#39;s years has a tail all this stuff come in and say I&#39;m going to sue the company unless you guys give me a litter box for the bathroom and they caved the CEO of the company caved they actually in one of the stalls put a giant litter box and this employee will go and use the litter box instead of the toilet because he thinks he&#39;s a cat and they just they just caved this is the world we&#39;re living in now so if you live in California you&#39;re part of what that culture you you can get yourself a litter box if you if you identify as a cat I know you know and I know that the CEO thought that was batshit crazy and then when asked publicly about it said you know we we&#39;re very inclusive we believe very firmly in a safe workplace bla bla bla have the courage to say no you can wear the cat ears in the tail but you can&#39;t you can&#39;t you can&#39;t defecate in a giant human size litter box there are some thresholds you can&#39;t cross and this is why we do the EMAs to have a demo during the may product update the day of he said we&#39;re not ready for and I said okay do it when you&#39;re ready and he&#39;s still working on it they ran into some issues with unique device ID and some things on the ledger firmware and they&#39;re trying to work around the fact that the firmware it doesn&#39;t have everything that we need so the long-term solution is the update the firmware which vacuum Labs is currently doing but the sharp short-term solution is some sort of contorted workaround for the hardware wallet center but they&#39;ll get it done this month it should happen I was pretty sad about that - I gotta let you if kardama becomes big you&#39;ll be attacked by the mainstream media as well they&#39;ll go back many years and find something to talk about oh god yeah these these AAAS are gonna give them so much to talk about I&#39;m looking forward to a 5-10 second clips here and there of things I&#39;ve said being taken completely out of context or wholesale just depending upon where you fall on the spectrum and them turning me into the world&#39;s greatest monster which is why you can never build a cult person wrap the personality around the kids because if you have that that&#39;s a vector of attack so the burden is on us to make sure that we decentralize this thing right so when they take old Charles down Anna&#39;s still going strong hey moth how you doing buddy look at what&#39;s to join us bye moth can we build an AI like Prometheus that shows factual information like in the book life 3.00 that&#39;d be pretty cool wouldn&#39;t it all right what else you guys got for me cuz I would you have any desire to make hardware products we already are Charles why not move card out of Puerto Rico act twenty is four percent business tech act 20 to 0 percent capital gains on taxes stocks yeah there&#39;s a lot of IRS stuff you have to do and I have to live in Puerto Rico half a year I live in Colorado I don&#39;t particularly care about the tax rate I just pay what it is it&#39;s my home can we decentralize that Mothe Oh believe me there&#39;s a lot of them they&#39;re very decentralized they&#39;re everywhere those damn moths Charles you mentioned the name a while back they were working on a project as big as card on oh can you give us some more info on that we are and no still working on it it&#39;s a very big have you read Nietzsche&#39;s book Beyond Good and Evil yes also his other book the spoke zarathustra which inspired a lovely orchestra does 5g cause cancer no evidence phone disagrees favorite computer scientists who I would offend some people if I mentioned that actually I think I needed this one Kirk girdle technically a computer scientist and he news from Steve Wolfram yes he is attending the virtual summit and he&#39;s gonna do a lovely presentation what&#39;s your opinion on von Neumann oh he was great guy - brilliant guy horrible human being he harassed a lot of women but a brilliant brilliant scientist and brilliant mathematician even with a standard of his time people considered him to be a bit too much do you like and ran philosophy No do you like Trump no man&#39;s bereft of integrity bereft of depth he&#39;s like everything that I stand against bundled into a single human being how horrible does the American political system have to be that guy like Trump is a desirable alternative to the candidates we were given it&#39;s really a reflection on how bad things have gotten rather than him as a leader we doesn&#39;t read anything doesn&#39;t care to read anything operates on innuendo and heuristics that are well out of a bed and there&#39;s just no depth about him and no integrity about him he can just sit and lie to your faith he brags about screwing people who brags about cheating people and defrauding people you know contract comes my house and says I&#39;ll fix the windows I say great tell me how much is gonna be they say this much as soon as they&#39;re done I Pam and they say it&#39;s gonna be X amount of dollars I cut a check a guy like Trump says come fix my casino come fix my Tower and they say okay they go and quote he says sure they go do the whole thing and he says oh I&#39;m not gonna pay you assuming and then they they get in this huge dispute and he draws it out for a little while and that eventually says I tell you I&#39;ll give you 60% of what you bid just to make me go away and they say fine go [ __ ] yourself and then he writes in his books this is a good way of doing business would you do business with a guy like that who brags about how he is able to use the bankruptcy to be able to get rid of debt and these other things and you know haha didn&#39;t have to pay that guy or made a good deal here you know there&#39;s just no character there the Trump University thing was another really disgusting thing you&#39;d go to all these poor people and tell them you&#39;re gonna teach them how to get rich you know we have a lot of that in our industry where you have these youtubers or other people running around saying oh yeah I&#39;ll teach you how to make tons of money with crypto you know just follow my investment scheme of course it never works no one has a silver bullet and then he says after you spend X tens of thousands of dollars you&#39;ll have a chance to meet me and at the end of the whole thing they have a cardboard cutout of him he doesn&#39;t even he couldn&#39;t even bother to actually meet the people to give him tens of thousands of dollars yeah and so what do people vote for him or support him because it&#39;s a [ __ ] you to the entire system they say that we would rather have a clown to disgrace the office and disgrace the institutions then play the game anymore and until the system understands that we will continue having that so don&#39;t like it change it you know and aspire to something better and what we&#39;re being offered is just more of the same fifty years in politics a to the last twelve years was the number two guy and that&#39;s change they&#39;re not getting the lesson so he&#39;s probably gonna win re-election as a consequence so maybe in 2024 both parties will actually understand that they have to change and if they don&#39;t we&#39;ll eventually be pushed to a civil war and a lot of people will die and it will be horrible for everyone but that&#39;s what they want okay I get rich gurus all over YouTube there&#39;s tons of a man I tell anybody tells they&#39;re gonna make you rich without hard work or you know getting lucky don&#39;t listen to that person easy path that wealth is an easy path to getting your wealth taken away from you why did you choose Haskell over golang I just felt that it was a better programming language all in all for formal methods the type of work we were doing the fact that we were building a high assurance concurrent system go is a perfectly reasonable language we used to go with the etherium project for the NGO etherium and other cryptocurrencies have used go as well if memory serves I believe cosmos is implemented and go and there&#39;s plenty of good go developers out there but for the type of work that we wanted to do Haskell is the way to go and we have spent a lot of time effort money to make that work for us favorite architect Imhotep didn&#39;t expect that one did you how can we get term limits constitutional amendment to terms in the Senate five terms in the Congress no more Pelosi&#39;s no more McConnell&#39;s ha I&#39;m a scientist philosopher and I&#39;d like to know a little bit more why you prefer to use a Bacchus perspective using Haskell and on a typical formal method using structured programming hey you&#39;re a funny one actually one thing I would love to to do is first off have formal specs that are a little bit more useful right now the formal specs are written in a way that are readable and easy to modify they&#39;re in the latex we can&#39;t do code extraction or model checking with them that&#39;s quite unfortunate and what we do is we write reference haskell with the formal specs and you know TL A+ would be an option I&#39;ve always been a fan of temporal logics but there are many ways to square that circle and actually we have a very good director of formal methods at i/o HK Phillip Kahn started as a physicist he actually worked at CERN and somewhere along the way he said computer science is just so much more cool and unlocking the mysteries of the universe and he&#39;s actually built up a great center of excellence within our company and he has a very diverse group of people in formal methods who love everything from Agda to lean and to other such things and we&#39;ve even created our own process calculus it&#39;s it&#39;s a great group and it&#39;s one of the hidden gems of i/o global Charles you&#39;re watching too much Silence of the Lambs how do you figure I&#39;d tell you UDP UDP joke but I don&#39;t think you&#39;d get it ha ha ha ha ha ha but if you do you&#39;ll get it a lot faster than a TCP joke what do you think about Trump&#39;s Tulsa event and I should have it if we can protest he can have those events what&#39;s the difference no difference you&#39;ve lost all moral authority politics is okay it&#39;s the walk virus Charles why make things so difficult complex with Haskell why not just keep it simple and build it in basic because code is read ten times for every one time it&#39;s written and if you ever want to maintain it of all of it grow it or find problems in it write it in a language that helps you with that as opposed to a language that hinders you with that who you gonna vote for Charles probably the libertarian candidate my vote doesn&#39;t count Colorado is gonna be blue so no matter what I think I have no voice zero I&#39;m not represented I&#39;ve never had in my lifetime a president I voted for when my state is blue so if I vote for Biden well then I&#39;m just giving him a little bit more more you know oomph for his victory if I vote for Trump well doesn&#39;t matter vote for anybody else doesn&#39;t matter my vote does not count your vote does not count only a small group of Americans vote actually counts how [ __ ] up of a system is that and that&#39;s the one we live in is there any delay may net launch No Charles how do you explain consciousness you&#39;d act if you&#39;re really curious about that I&#39;d highly recommend you okay to YouTube and Google Marvin Minsky Marvin Minsky consciousness he was a really famous computer scientist and AI researcher and he has a great dialogue about that and that he had shortly before he died Marvin was a very brilliant man Charles are you woke well Ariel what do you think am i feel pretty whoa calm would you prefer a direct democracy like Switzerland Switzerland doesn&#39;t actually have a direct democracy it&#39;s a far more nuanced system they don&#39;t even have a president they actually have a committee that leads the country and it&#39;s a cantonal Confederacy what do you think about Justin Trudeau losing 1 billion dollars over a UN Council seat well if they ever find his testicles let me know he&#39;s not a man something else not a big fan of trade oh and I think he&#39;s actually Castro&#39;s kid I saw those pictures I&#39;m pretty convinced of it Charles do you think Hitler fled Argentina the FBI thought so who knows if he did they probably would have found him the Israelis would have found him they were pretty vicious about that one they they scoured all a South American looking for Nazis I spoke about true true doping Castro&#39;s kid online and the Canadian Secret Service came to my workplace no I don&#39;t believe that I want to believe that&#39;s true John I really do but I don&#39;t I can&#39;t I&#39;m sorry can&#39;t Canada&#39;s not that aggressive what did they just come up on a moose I&#39;m sorry you can&#39;t go after our leader have some maple syrup when Willie Oh sky oh yes we&#39;ll never die dad Larimer we&#39;ll just leave it and the Justin son will take it over he&#39;ll create yo stew wrath of wrath of Dan [Music] Canadians are apparently Kermit the Frog nah I just do that for my Canadian impersonation my chief of staff tomorrow hasson she&#39;s she&#39;s Canadian and I always have so much fun picking on Canada and she hates me for it can&#39;t some lovely conversations from time to time picking on lovely Canada although Canada actually one of the most beautiful countries I&#39;ve ever been to you know and [Music] there&#39;s actually my favorite steak house in the entire world is there I&#39;m Jacob sink oh it&#39;s in Toronto there&#39;s a lot of great things I love Vancouver it&#39;s a beautiful city as well your thoughts on Elon Musk and the work he&#39;s doing on neuro Lange seems interesting yeah yeah it&#39;s one of those things that when you get on to like a you know 18 24 month evolution cycle and you tether it to something really good you like like restoring paralysis you know or dealing with epilepsy then within just 10 or 20 generations it will become a consumer product and then at that point it&#39;s getting a game-changer for all of humanity give us telepathy massive amount of data retention ability to transfer complex thoughts you know I&#39;m transferring information to you guys and I&#39;m doing that through speech so my brain is firing and I&#39;m thinking and then it translates to some muscular processes and then basically I&#39;m blowing air through my mouth and vocal cords and this is creating sound in a very particular way it goes here it goes to you and that&#39;s a super super low tech low bandwidth medium and language is required to make that understandable and language has all this ambiguity so complex concepts require enormous amounts of effort to encode and decode and decipher and there&#39;s lots of misconceptions that occur or misinterpretations that occur okay well if you have neural link I can just think of a complex concept and send it to you wholesale and you receive it with no necessary changes and you just you just get it so you know if I wanted to talk about the Hilbert&#39;s null Stalin thoughts you know and show you how to prove that just something in the algebra world that you learn in grad school I could just be like boom and you give oh wow that&#39;s really cool that&#39;s amazing it&#39;s a hidden gem of mathematics and normally it&#39;d take you about three months to understand it and you just get it so think about what that does to the world when something like that comes out it it changes everything absolutely everything well chatters more knowledgeable about crypto than half a crypto Twitter yeah Shatner is really smart he had a chance to meet him and have dinner with him down in Mexico and Bill is is really up to date guys in his 80s and he&#39;s he&#39;s sharp as hell I love William Shatner I really do Charles to do consultancy anymore I put it on hold during the coronavirus I was probably gonna make between one to two million dollars consulting this year and then all that got ended because of coronavirus it&#39;s usually what I make doing it and so next year get back to it what was your first job huh the first job I really liked I actually built replicas Rolexes for a guy from Senegal he would give me a bunch of these counterfeit watches and I would upgrade them and put Swiss movements into them I was 17 at the time I&#39;d put ETA 2836 movements and and then legit and aftermarket bezels and crowns and the and the right sapphire with the right magnification the cyclops it&#39;s 2.5 x for the rolex submariner and get bracelets in that actually had a proper waiting so that they felt like that they were gold they were triple wrap gold plated with lead yeah that was a lot of fun I I love watches and to have a job and it&#39;s so young and be paid to basically build them without a degree in her ology that was fun favorite watch company Jaeger laocoön is probably the best engineering company at the moment because of the gyro turbine Vacheron Constantin in my view makes the prettiest skeleton watches Jack a drone makes the best of Tommy Tom&#39;s there are minute repeaters that they do the bird repeater is unbelievable and all of the the repeaters that they do are unbelievable well blow is is fun you can you can throw them at people that&#39;s the wrapper watch the the ice do blow with gold you know it&#39;s like a heavy heavy watch to have PJ makes this beautiful thing called the Altiplano and it&#39;s the thinnest mechanical watch I think you can buy right now that&#39;s an automatic and the weights on the back actually have to come out of platinum because gold is not heavy enough it&#39;s not dense enough you made Rolexes you fake Rolexes i would upgrade them to have swiss movements in them it was fun I didn&#39;t sell them I just I just worked on and whatever happened after that was someone else&#39;s business I&#39;ve had a I&#39;ve had a unique life kids I also worked at a KFC Taco Bell that was a less desirable job it didn&#39;t even have the dignity to be a proper KFC it had to be a Taco Bell as well made the chicken and I was really bad about it I almost burnt myself with the with an exploding chicken cooker yeah the extra greasy chicken here the extra crispy chicken for KFC you&#39;re supposed to open up the top on the fryer for the second round of frying that you do for it I left a doll on and actually built up too much pressure and exploded all this grease came over the whole back of the kitchen and I had to jump out of the way of it that was fun and broke my glasses Charles looks like a Russian gangster without the glasses he has to keep them to avoid scaring people yes I went with the John Lennon look instead well you ever wear contacts or do LASIK nope yeah I&#39;ll only I&#39;ll only replace I&#39;ll only replace my eyes when that&#39;s good otherwise I&#39;ll just go blind and then somebody will read to me funny Jack Ma got declined for a job at McDonald&#39;s look at him now you notice Jack he has this amazing life stories like I tried 17 times for this and then I applied for Harvard 12 times and then I went to McDonald&#39;s and then they rejected me and then I was drugged and woke up in a bathtub missing a kidney but then they gave me the kidney back because they rejected it and said it wasn&#39;t a good enough kidney then I had to find somebody who would quit the kidney back into me but then 12 surgeons wouldn&#39;t do it so I had to do it myself with dental floss I still have that floss kidney it&#39;s like so I&#39;m not really exaggerating very much when you listen to Jack Ma talk that guy is so much fun [Laughter] and now is crazy rich but it&#39;s crazy rich in China you know that&#39;s not a good deal if the government turns against you you&#39;re disappeared you know the first thing I think I would do if I was a Chinese billionaires moved to Switzerland and resend my citizenship yeah true that KB do you think a resource-based economy it would work ray do you remember that guy he&#39;s the weird French or whatever dude he&#39;s bald Venus Project or something like that can somebody look him up I wish I had Jamie I&#39;d be like Jamie can you look up that being his project guy aah Jill Rogan he&#39;s got a good crew I gotta hire a crew for this [ __ ] guys having fun I&#39;m having fun looking good well you&#39;re looking good too Johnnie Walker thank you I&#39;ll be your Jamie Charles okay well then mgl zmd can you I&#39;m just gonna call you mm can you can you look that up Venus Project who&#39;s that short bald guy that runs a resource-based economy Charles have you ever met Peter teal yeah he&#39;s a nice guy what cigars do you smoke and what alcohol do you fancy I already answered the alcohol so you&#39;re gonna have to refer back for cigars of Hemingway&#39;s October fluenta Hemingway&#39;s they&#39;re like 10 bucks super cheap you can buy them off the back of a golf cart when you&#39;re you know golfing the drink girls sell them to you and and they&#39;re just great the short stories are just great perfect cigar for a single setting Jacques phone call yeah Jacque fresco yeah The Venus Project exactly he once went to see a boulder I saw him speak he died a few years ago too Oh No when did he die yeah he was talking about all these buildings that you can make out of like metal that had memory and they could self assemble right out-of-the-box super creative nice guy when did he die that makes me sad I didn&#39;t even know are you listening Shelley on Finance shallow cardano&#39;s already on Finance it&#39;s our number one trading exchange like nobody cares if itna to takes value from hate in the market well Sato it has to be traded first itna de it&#39;s not and if it is traded it only a curve there is real independent use and utility for that chain so that&#39;s a long way from happening and every a de holders got an opinion about it thoughts about Mike Tyson getting back in the ring well if those fight videos are to be believed he&#39;s looking like a pretty good fighter he&#39;s not looking like 20s Mike Tyson but he looks maybe like 40s Mike Tyson I think it&#39;s gonna be fun have you harvested any jalapeno peppers yes sir I have and they are good please for the love of all things holy have you had any results from the brain wave device you bought a couple of weeks ago no I stopped using it thoughts about singularity net been speaks very highly of Carden oh yes he&#39;s actually coming to speak at the virtual summit and I&#39;ll have a one-on-one with him and hopefully we can get singularity net on card on Oh that&#39;d be very very fun and actually Ben&#39;s kid is an incredibly talented Haskell programmer small world huh he&#39;s a good man I was a huge fan of OpenCog his great framework yeah we&#39;re bringing everybody the virtual summit come on now it&#39;s a fun thing do you consider Pluto a planet we&#39;re not even gonna have that debate we&#39;re not even gonna have that debate sir no no no no no no where can I find a good biography on you I haven&#39;t done enough stuff yet at some point somebody will write one about me and so it&#39;ll be like one of those choose your own adventure books you just decide what my background is I&#39;ll just go with it and that&#39;s when I wrote The Birdcage I had a two-year gay relationship with Robin Williams have you ever read George Orwell yep mandatory reading for these days Phil Zimmerman yes I&#39;ve met Phil many times last time was that gyro crypt in Israel a really bright guy I&#39;d love to work with him on another PGP standard one of these days we&#39;ll get around to it it would be amazing if you had a reality TV show about your career and farm you know I&#39;ve actually been offered two different reality TV shows I&#39;ve had various people reach out to me and I&#39;ve turned them both down I think the AMAs are a lot more fun will the Ethiopia gals be at the virtual summit yeah some of them will be your dad&#39;s a doctor you have any brothers and sisters I have an older brother his name&#39;s William and he is also a doctor he&#39;s doctor of internal medicine and Gillett were your parents in the military my mom was in the army she was an army mom have you ever been to Nigeria or South Africa yes to both Lagos and I&#39;ve also been all throughout South Africa and actually I&#39;m friends with a Roma pulse&#39; family to mellow in particular and I stated fall off all at once which is his dad&#39;s ranch the Rawley poses are currently the cyril is currently the president of South Africa have you considered shaving your beard of just-for-fun Sado I have already done that get with the times man there are plenty of videos about shaven Charles have you ever read jorge luis borges yeah he did the that infinite library book and in several others if your mathematician that&#39;s required reading as well that in flatland livvie or Tacitus hoof what about cicero now Livia Livia the elder yeah he was a historian character class you&#39;d pick and D&amp;D well if we talk in third edition the scions sir yeah psionics for the win and obviously the intelligence scion the shaper what&#39;s up with that if the community wrote custom quest for legends of Valar would you put the top ten in the game you know actually I am gonna put custom characters in the game from people I&#39;ve met in life good and bad I might put dant Larimer and Vitalik in the game and yeah the community went ahead and wrote some quests I would be happy to put some of those community quest in if you guys voted on it very soon Cardona will have a voting system and I might actually submit some ballots for that you know we people could you know have some ideas and characters they want to put in for various state pool operators and ambassadors and other major people the card on community would be fun to have you guys design your own character for the game and have it forever immortalized within that game you know beware pissing off a game developer because we can we can do all kinds of things Alexander the greater Caesar which Caesar you&#39;re talking probably about Julius Caesar or Augustus Caesar Julius if he lived long enough probably would have vastly surpassed Alexander and I fellig&#39;s and ER lived longer he probably would have vastly surpassed Genghis Khan so you know it&#39;s one of those tricky things we&#39;re all great conquerors are always undone by death Newton or Euler Euler come on now boiler we always always always got to represent the the home team I didn&#39;t study physics babbles library that&#39;s right yeah and they had that cult looking for the index that was required reading math is physics no physics is math got it the other way around son I characteris it&#39;s a literal pile of [ __ ] named Craig we can have him we&#39;ll just call him Craig Craig w and we&#39;ll have him as the stable guy you know and basically all he does in the game like 24/7 is just shovel [ __ ] and to a and to a wagon and then he just claims that he&#39;s written all the famous books in the game oh this is gonna be fun I&#39;m gonna get sued what math problem would you like to have solved I would have loved to have solved the Goldbach conjecture I might go back in the mathematics that give it another shot now that I have damn near unlimited resources to pursue these things with anger it&#39;s just a beautiful problem it says any even energy or the binary Goldbach conjecture says any even integer for greater is equal to the sum of two prime numbers and there&#39;s just a richness about that problem because it&#39;s making a statement about a general factorization because any even number is just two times an arbitrary factorization to a specific type of factorization so there&#39;s a whole class of problems that are kind of like that like Collatz conjecture which says that if you have an even number you divided by 2 if you have an odd number you times it by 3 and add 1 and the conjecture is that if you generate a sequence of numbers that that sequence will always be finite and it kind of makes sense because you&#39;re saying all right if you ever hit a power - then and that&#39;s a trap it&#39;ll go all the way down to one and then one goes back to four to one so it creates a finite sequence they&#39;re called hailstone sequences so you know when you look at the division by two that&#39;s kind of the multiplicative side but that plus one it changes the factorization and so if you can solve gold back you probably would understand why collapse is true or false there&#39;s somewhat similar problems to each other it&#39;s a field of mathematics called additive number theory and there&#39;s a lot of magic there and and all those problems are just impossible to solve people work on them for decades and they make very little progress however you do solve it it&#39;s like an insta Fields Medal and if you&#39;re old and it&#39;s an instant Apple prize but it&#39;s like you become a big guy in a gal in mathematics but everybody&#39;s super skeptical he&#39;s just like oh yeah I have a solution for Goldbach conjecture like okay nobody reads them because nobody thinks you can solve it unless you&#39;re Terry Tao or something like that and generally how you would solve something like that is that you would build this massive scaffolding of papers and you&#39;d slowly work your way up to some sort of solution kind of like what Wiles did was from Osler theorem spent 20 years on that and he had to build all this crazy stuff to get their thoughts on the e8 theory where you can actually have a unified field theory with Lee algebras it&#39;s beautiful picture if you guys google ea8 physics and click images you can actually see the EI complex talicia or whatever his name is has it napoleon or simone Bulova napoleon what&#39;s the longest she ever worked on a single math problem I thought about Goldbach off and on for eight years seriously thought about it for two I really wanted to solve that problem I really it was my white whale I really want this Albin you know it was something so fundamental and so simple you yeah in mathematics you develop a relationship with certain ideas and problems and they become like your friends and you go and have a conversation with them from time to time and you know and when you solve it actually it&#39;s like your friend dies you know you never quite have another problem that means as much to you so in a way you don&#39;t want to solve it but on the other hand you want to and when you get there if you get there if you&#39;re so privileged to get there then it&#39;s something that&#39;s so indescribably beautiful this is why you know this is why you know I I love mathematics so much now there&#39;s an unlimited amount of problems to work on yeah there&#39;s you can do whatever you want for the rest of your life and touch only a very small part of a very very small part of a very small part of a massive thing so but emotionally there&#39;s only a few that you&#39;ll ever find that you just like they mean a lot to you understanding details and nuances of the monster group was and the surreal numbers was something that Conway was obsessed with we all know him from Conway&#39;s Game of Life but that was his white whale and he didn&#39;t live long enough to actually see all the things that he wanted crew approved kind of sad but that&#39;s the way the cookie crumbles if you ever heard of big nation you know that was Susan Temple Huff&#39;s thing Charles is Liska dead project you&#39;ve been a consultant that&#39;s why I&#39;m asking I did consult for a little bit I actually stopped consulting because they weren&#39;t using me I became a consultant they never called me and they never attain anything and they were paying me and I was like guys what he want to do in the straw that broke the camel&#39;s back was that they went out got some university relationship and they never once even consulted me on it I was like guys I could have negotiated this with you and saved you a bunch of money so I actually just I just left and I gave back the rest of the money I didn&#39;t complete the full year and I wrote an open letter about it and I wish him well you know max is not a bad dude he&#39;s actually quite nice person to talk to you in person but I never really understood where they would like to go with it so I couldn&#39;t really had a lot of value to it when do you see the African farmer voucher program coming together on card ah no we&#39;re still bidding on that voucher program we were supposed to have a final decision but then the government delayed the bid by about two weeks so hopefully we at least get an understanding if we were accepted or not and then we&#39;ll begin negotiations for the final contract Charles has the ABC conjecture really been solved yeah has Sydney she done it publishing in his own journal it didn&#39;t really help his case that he refused to leave Kyoto and not gonna lecture about it the problem with his proof is it&#39;s just simply too complicated and people have had this been years working their way slowly slowly through his paper and there&#39;s been some concerns but I don&#39;t think there&#39;s consensus in the mathematical community one way or the other but the general consensus is that he was naughty because he needs to do better at explaining things who is your favorite old-school wrestler oh come on now Macho Man Randy Savage tried any Ethiopian coffee lately the stuff that you drink outside of the country is better than the stuff inside of the country because of the import-export laws that they have it&#39;s the great irony of Ethiopia they&#39;re one of the largest producers in the world of coffee and you get you get coffee and coffee by outside of the country is better it&#39;s crazy has halo been peer reviewed I don&#39;t think it was accepted in any conference but people are working on it Charles has a golden ratio been implemented anywhere card out oh yes some of the art work that we&#39;ve done especially the cue ball the cue ball stuff that we do on the card on a road map for the pictures of Shelley and Ada and so forth there&#39;s a lot of golden ratio stuff in the art we&#39;re all good after Gogan see you starting to get it if you have a slogan people get it remember moonwalking with Einstein great book shellie ships June 30th not the 29th July 29th is the date you&#39;re referring to and that&#39;s the heart forked date the backup ship date is the seventh of July if for some reason something goes wrong with the testing that we&#39;re doing this upcoming week a to Charles hey Charles how&#39;s your mental and physical health going yeah pretty good got a chance to catch up on all my stuff this year things look pretty good I had a botched cholesterol test and I redid it and now it&#39;s normal again what happened was that they left my labs out in the Sun just in the truck or something and everything went weird and so they said hey you need to come back and take we take more blood out of you it&#39;s like you got 11 vials last time guys when will the pandemic end that&#39;s a good way to end the MA so guys here&#39;s my prediction governments too far along every politicians too far along they need an out so here&#39;s how they get their out they are gonna wait til the vaccines available and then after the vaccines had some time to percolate then they&#39;ll say everything&#39;s cured everything goes back to normal ok mission accomplished we saved all these lives look at that and we got three vaccines right now that are in Phase two which means that they&#39;ve already cleared their safety trials and now they&#39;re in their efficacy trials and the US government is mass manufacturing those vaccines already so should they clear the efficacy trial they will be available immediately after they clear that trial the soonest that can happen is q4 of 2020 more likely than not q1 of 2021 and then the minute that&#39;s out life gets back to normal and we move on it won&#39;t all be the same but at least we&#39;ll be able to stop wearing these damn muzzles okay well thank you guys so much I appreciate you taking the time to be with me I always have fun being with you and these were some good questions you know wrap things up next week is gonna be a good week a lot of testing a lot of doing balance check is going to occur we got probably a vote happening sometime next week or the week after and a lot of people are working really hard right now to try to get all this stuff out get things done Shelley is imminent and July summit is imminent it&#39;s gonna be an experience I think that we all earned as a community and I look forward to seeing what happens with the itn and I look forward to seeing Shelley out there and all these small business owners take over and be able to actually do something productive and great for all of us and I look forward to Gogan coming out and I look forward to keep working with all yeah it&#39;s been fun and it&#39;s gonna continue being fun Cheers

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