hi everyone this is charles hoskinson broadcasting live from warm sunny colorado always warm always sunny sometimes colorado today is april 22nd 2021 and i am sitting here in my office in the the nice outside studio although i'll be moving back inside the other city as soon as i finish some computer stuff and i figured it's about time for us to have an ama how about that uh it has been a little bit of time we've been really really busy uh we were setting up the africa special uh it's uh thursday the 29th uh yes we do have a lot of announcements and things and it's not just ethiopia we're actually covering the entire continent of africa because we have deals all across and projects all across and lots of fun things to announce and do and just a discussion about how we've approached business there and built relationships there so i hope you guys enjoy it as much as we enjoyed making it i filmed some segments and uh did a panel today and everybody's just trying to get all their stuff in uh in line and coordinating that uh especially for in-person recordings uh and uh in during the time of cova is very difficult we've had a lot of journalists we've talked to as well the panel today was moderated by someone from the financial times uh boy that was fun uh we'll also have some updates about cardano itself at the end of the month as well we're kind of converting converting the 360 episode to the africa special so there'll be some 360 news and then they'll be the africa special stuff so i hope you guys enjoy it uh software side is coming along very well uh we just keep chipping away at it we just keep adding resources we just keep delivering a lot of code has been written this month a lot more code will be written next month bluetooth pioneers program is rolling along 1500 people in it i think we're in week three if i recall i and we're getting a lot of feedback uh some negative some positive mostly positive negative stems around documentation or just uh the fact that it sometimes takes a little time to get a question answered because there's 1500 people and one lars so you imagine how difficult that one is but they're getting it done a little by little uh eight development companies i think are all tasked with various things and when the bluetooth test net hits it's going to be balls to the wall so i don't envy the workload there but we scaled up accordingly and it's very exciting to see these pieces come together [Music] catalyst is still working voltaire project is still working there's so many moving pieces to all of this unfortunately politically the united states is not in good strides at the moment we're still in the middle of pandemic without an end in sight and and no one's being intellectually honest about things and that's a source of endless frustration looks like the corporate tax rate for offshore corporate taxes is going to double uh it looks like my personal taxes are going to double as well with the latest tax proposal my capital gains is going from 20 to i guess 43.5 percent and of course uh people don't understand history anymore or why we do what we do and looks like puerto rico excuse me puerto rico but washington dc might become a state the whole point of washington dc is it's not supposed to be a state or otherwise it would just be part of maryland or virginia but i guess we're just going to ignore the whole point of washington dc and history of the republic for raw political power why not so a lot of depressing [ __ ] coming down the pipe there that really pisses me off and it just uh it's an endless river that one why do we pay taxes well we could print trillions of dollars and why do we pay taxes when the military budget continues to go up never goes down is what it is well anyway let's talk about some fun stuff let's get to your questions animes are about you guys not about me and uh let's see what you guys have for this [Applause] this dip is scaring me i'm panicked buying well you guys pay too much attention to the price what goes up goes down you can't predict these prices and there's too many moving factors especially if capital gains double it's going to be devastating for the markets they're going to collapse charles what's in the wooden frame on the safe behind you so that's a special sculpture it's a kinetic sculpture and it has these feathers and they look like they're underwater moving at a very slow speed but actually they're vibrating at a very fast speed to replicate that i like kinetic art is it true that there are only eight cardano nodes currently in africa no that's a lie whoever you heard that from is an idiot there might be eight relays running in africa but that's different from nodes there's probably thousands of them but people lie people just relentlessly lie and there's no consequences for lying in our industry what about those books that over there is the art of programming from donald knuth every office has to have one but i actually have a new book here it's recently sent to me it is from joel david hampkins thank you hampkins for the book lectures on the philosophy of mathematics looks like a really exciting read and actually it covers a lot of different topics from incompleteness to set theory uh there's everything you expect stuff on kanter and freg a separation axiom extensionality replacement axiom large cardinals continuum hypothesis that's exciting multi-first few does mathematics need new axioms that's an interesting chapter geometry infinity i'm a bit of an ultra finitis so it's nice to have an infinity chapter proofs computability computability is generally not a topic in a historical philosophy of mathematics but it's uh it's nice to see it in this rigger oh that's exciting and let's see here numbers they even have a section on dedicate cuts it's gonna be fun so i'm looking forward to reading it on my copious spare time that i have capital gains increase likely will not pass right no it will pass that was the consequence of georgia so depressing about that divided government is government of compromise not a government of monoculture and unfortunately because there's a political monopoly all these things are going to pass through javascript course update uh thank you so much for mentioning that matthew dolan so i am going to create an introduction to programming introduction computer science class and the idea was to actually go from first principles uh and i kind of like wanted to roll up what um uh nanda shotgun did with nanda tetris and work my way to javascript as a the lingua franca and then do a collection of applications and one would be in the uh a web scraper just to show people how to interface with a headless browser and scrape the web and actually manipulate a dom because that's a very useful skill set uh then the other would be some form of ai maybe like a chat bot or you know something involving machine learning so there were some clever ideas there and then something involving algorithmic music i thought were three really good use cases to show people collection of skill sets to to really get good at uh at programming so with my copious free time after i finished that lectures of mathematics book right uh you know i i would create something like this and it'd be really cool to do for a functional style so use ramda and js verify for property based testing which is quick check and show people that there are different ways to do it there's some great source material emailed the authors of eloquent javascript which is in its third edition i think they're just about to make a fourth edition uh and the pedagogy and javascript in particular has gotten very very good and you can do a functional style you can do an object-oriented style i and actually there's a sister language called typescript which is a superset of javascript which can teach you a lot about working with types and testing with types and so forth so i really do want to make a class like that and it'll be a heck of a lot of fun to do a class like that there was also some discussion about potentially doing some native code for cardano as a node application potentially even a full node as a javascript node application and if that's the case then there could be a blockchain component in such a class i just don't have the time starting a bio technology company with my brother and i got a ranch up in wyoming in addition to the farm here in colorado and there's uh just so much stuff right now in the pipeline but it is something that i'll do alongside that uh follow up lecture for information security i and a few other projects i have in fact i wanted to do a whole udemy course on infinity and when i'm a little older and i global's a little further along i think these are the projects i'll do for sanity more ted talks i've been invited back and that's definitely something i'll do next year where do you find hope in difficult times this is a good one uh you know everything in life no matter how difficult life happens to be uh there's probably some time in human history that was far far far more difficult than the time we're encountering if you don't believe me look up the year 536 that probably was the worst year of a.d it was horrible volcanic eruption blotted out the sun which created uh famine and global vitamin d deficits and as a consequence a pandemic broke out which killed probably 10 20 of the entire human population uh and uh it spread like wildfire everywhere wars were everywhere the byzantine empire basically didn't get to reunify the western empire and it changed the whole trajectory of the world and it took about a century for europe in particular to recover but it was a global phenomena uh and that was just one year and then you look at the reign of marcus aurelius there was a plague during that and that's one of the reasons the roman empire collapsed was because of that event and then you know you have the plague of athens there's a lot of plagues in human history so many many difficult times a 20th century was riddled with them so we look to 2020 and 2021 these are not especially difficult we still live in a time of plenty if you're from a developed country you probably still can eat you probably still have a job and even if you don't have a job there's at least hope you'll get one in a reasonable period of time and yeah markets go down and sometimes cynicism comes in i think we have a different epidemic and that's one of a loss of meaning people are struggling to find what to do and where to go and how to live life i the reality is that there's no clear rights of passage in divisions when my grandfather on my mom's side was growing up it was very clear what you did you know you graduated from high school and you marry your high school sweetheart or you very quickly get married you get a job you work at that same job you work your way up you start a family you take care of that family and you stay up with your peer group and if there's a war you go and fight in that war and then you come home and restart the process and that's exactly what he did graduated from high school went flat in the korean war and when he got out married raised seven kids five boys two girls my mom amongst them and he worked his way up became a big guy in the cable business i that was how life was supposed to work and for many many americans and many people in the world that was the standard now we live in a period where you graduate from college you move back in with your parents it's not clear where to go what to do marriage rates are down rights of passage are down and there's a loss of faith whatever you wherever you stand on faith faith gives people purpose and meaning and it structures their lives and gives them rights of passage when you rob them of that and the dignity of work and the belief that society is just or that there is a place for you in the world then you end up having a loss of hope directly connected to a loss of meaning and so i think the the antidote for that is to start from first principles read the stoic philosophers epictetus and seneca and aurelius and these others uh think a little bit about alternative ways of looking at the world not to adopt the philosophy but just to expand your mind learn about ikegai and buddhism and taoism find inspiration find role models find people that did things that were quite interesting post-modernism and this social justice phenomena one of the most dangerous and pernicious things is the death of veneration there's this bizarre notion that if someone had has done something despicable in their life any other thing that they've done no matter how grand and great is automatically discounted so for example if you're a founding father of the united states but you had slaves you're an evil man and there's nothing you can do or have done that is ever redeemable you can write the constitution you can write the declaration of independence you can fought epic battles and and show enormous bravery but apparently one thing is irredeemable and that's not how life works uh people are combinations of vile behavior and epic behavior and the greater the person the larger those extremes will be uh if you ever go to mongolia gangnam khan was a warlord he killed lots of people probably over a million once you rack it all up on the other hand few people have conquered a third of the world and built an empire as vast as his and unified the world in the way that he did so is he an evil man was he a great man it's some combination of the two and so when you look for meaning in life you look for people who have done great things and great evil and you try to understand that and try to fit it in and try to ascribe those motives and then you you put that into some ethical framework that allows you to sort out the good and the bad and decide what to borrow and what to take um and then it allows you to navigate things in such a way that you ultimately can find your meaning and your purpose and then once you have meaning and purpose you have hope because hope comes from the ability to find that meaning the ability to achieve that meaning whatever it is you have set and it doesn't have to be world changing and grand it could be as small as i want to take care of my community there are so many people that like for example my ranch it's in wyoming nearby wheatland small town very small town you could make your entire life's work just trying to make that town a little bit better if you see something go out of business try to find a business to replace it or just service to others small servers big service helping the elderly whatever it might be that is the key and then the hope is the ability to continue doing those things that you love uh and if you're looking for inspiration look to the past because humans have been around for a long time and there's plenty of people to look at and admire and respect the great things that they've done and gain wisdom from the bad things that they've done and try to understand why they did those things what were the motivations behind them a lack of wisdom comes from repeating the mistakes of the past and if you don't understand motives it's difficult so that's how i find hope and it's given me a tremendous amount of clarity i've noticed a lot of the criticism i've received has come from a lack of empathy a lot of the criticism i've received has come from a lack of maturity with people and i find myself pitying people more than anything else and feeling sorry for them that they have such a narrow view or such a sad view or closed view and wishing them well hoping that they can find a way to mature and grow up and broaden themselves because at the end of the day i can't imagine how bad and sad and unfulfilled those lives must be if they're stuck in that rut in that perception chris spencer aloha charles aloha and mahalo love hawaii i was born on maui how did ron paul inspire you that's a fun one ron paul is just pure consistency and in an age of inconsistency double speak and hypocrisy it was so incredibly refreshing to have somebody that what was on the label was actually what was inside the packaging how often in life do you encounter people again and again and again who say x and then do y and then you're told well that's just the way the world works and when you take ron paul and you take the packaging off he says x he does x just that simple that's who he is that's how he operates and that's what the world is all about and so anyway i got a second plane secretary just handed me a nope ah there we go for later so anyway uh i love that about him and it doesn't mean he's god he's always right but he had a very simple message and a beautiful message it was choose liberty a sound money and a humble foreign policy so every single person has liberty in freedom and respect it and honor it and don't slice people up into groups and say well there's this group and this group and this group and how do we get more something for this group and how do we get more from something for this group everybody is equal under god and under the law that simple for ron's choose liberty and uh sound money it says well you work so hard every day to earn something [ __ ] the stuff that you earn stay at the value that you earned it why should you have to pay this built-in tax where every year the things in your pocket decay in value in some cases double-digit decay look at the price of lumber you tell me that inflation's at three percent and the problem is politicians have no incentive to be honest with you and they'll continue debasing the currency because it's politically convenient and then a humble foreign policy the united states should not have military bases in a hundred countries we shouldn't have troops everywhere we shouldn't be running 24 hours a day seven days a week special forces operations overthrowing governments we shouldn't be assassinating people we shouldn't be drone striking people basic stuff like that we don't need an empire it was never the intention of the founding fathers it was more be friends with everybody be neutral trade be nice don't kill people so that was the baseline of ron paul and he voted that way for over 30 years while he was in the house of representatives even when it was politically inconvenient and he took great criticism for it and when he ran for president he had an unwavering commitment to those values now there are certain practical questions and execution questions and it's absolutely true that there's a difference between philosophy and the execution of philosophy and compromises must be made and the one thing he couldn't do was compromise so for me it was nice to have someone who refused to compromise and nice to have someone who was unbending to remind the world that sometimes integrity and principles matter and changed my life changed my view on the world and it made me the person i am today so even though his presidential campaign was ultimately unsuccessful he seated a generation of people that were reminded that liberty matters and i'll carry that and many others will for the rest of their lives why haskell so haskell is an interesting one you can accomplish the things that we want to accomplish with other languages like idris and agda and o'camel uh and there's certainly many good choices but regardless of the one you pick the goal is still the same we have these papers that we write ora boris and the extended utxo model and hydra and catalyst and all this other stuff the voting system therein and those papers contain an enormous amount of sophistication so people first ask well how do you find a developer well hang on a second here if i hire a c developer a c plus plus developer java developer a c sharp developer i might have a much easier time finding him or her but then what happens when i give that developer the paper and say here's where boris tell me how to build it i'm going to have a much harder time finding a developer who can read that paper understand that paper and semantically correctly implement that paper when you have a haskell developer more often than not they come from the academic world the scientific world they're a little brighter than the average bearer much much higher probability that that developer will be able to read that paper understand that paper translate that paper into code and that code will run so it felt natural to me since we were investing in the science to bring in a different class of developer and have that developer go and translate the science into haskell as the reference code now it's entirely true that maybe that is not the code you end up in market with but it's a lot easier to translate from haskell to java than it is to go from science to java much much easier because at least you have something running and working and you with a little bit of training about five to ten weeks with a normal developer they'll know enough about it to be able to read the code the documentation and be able to kind of figure out a different way of doing it and that's exactly what happened with vincent hance and nicola de prima and the cardinal rust code they looked at the haskell code they read it they understood it and then they were able to write russ code it's significantly harder to take a paper that has mathematical proofs in it all these formalisms and just go straight from that to the code so that's why haskell in that alone while it was very expensive in the beginning and we had to build processes is now putting us in a very unique competitive position where we're accelerating and we're accelerating despite the incumbent complexity of scale and the incumbent complexity of these protocols contrast that with our competitors who are mired in complexity and they keep having product delays like f2 because they're in that position where they're having much more complicated science and protocols but then they don't have that intermediate step that helps them manage that figure it out sort it simplify it and turn it into something good so i'm happy with it i paid the price for it whether you thought was a good idea or not well we have the developers now we have libraries now it works on windows now and we have a great development workflow and we're releasing code very quickly anybody who tells you otherwise they're just lying to you serious question are you really 33 years old yeah i was born november 5th 1987. i'm fasting for ramadan at the moment have you ever done fasting for a whole month the longest i've done with a fast extended fast was three weeks uh so extended fast means you have no food at all you just drink water that's it it's a water fast uh so that was tough very tough um you have to be a little careful take your vitamins during it take sodium during it so you get terrible headaches and you have to be a little careful coming off of it to avoid refeeding syndrome but it's a little different than a religious fast like for ramadan but i still have a tremendous amount of respect for people go through these things it is not easy in a modern society with a modern diet to detox from all that sugar and get off of it so kudos to you ari and good luck with it do you play starcraft 2 it was the highest rank game on pc at all i did play starcraft 2. it was great game we all waited for it i played the original starcraft and i played starcraft 2 wings of liberty and heart of the swarm and shadows of the void i thought that the first version wings of liberty was just phenomenal i was okay with heart of swarm and i was disappointed in shadows of the void uh whatever that's called uh from a plot perspective but from a game mechanics perspective starcraft 2 was great i think it was a good sequel to starcraft unlike warcraft 3 to warcraft 2 where with upkeep and all these other things and the hero the over focus on heroes i think it took a lot out of the mechanics of the game uh and that said i love james rander i love that whole thing it was it was a lot of fun it's great it's hard to be a successor to a game like starcraft but i do believe they did a pretty good job with it what happened to the game you bought i bought the intellectual property for legends of valor and i just haven't had time to set the game development company i was planning on actually getting it started this year in the summer summertime but then my brother decided to retire as did my dad and we're starting a biotech company together so the slot of time that i had for game development unfortunately i i've had to spend that a little differently uh that said it's still there and uh i do have conversations about every two weeks about it with various people and there's actually a game development uh university program in france my cto ramon uh he used to be in game development in fact he created pokemon go before pokemon go existed it was his phd dissertation uh so uh he's affiliated with a french research group and we're going to do something uh kind of like cryptokitties and we're calling it crypto bison because my ranch in wyoming has bison uh so i'll do something there uh and i still have intentions to to i beautiful plans for all the stuff for uh the game company uh so legends of valor is kind of like an rpg and we're gonna do it like skyrim so like an elder squirrels game and there's a whole plot i have over 86 pages of game design collateral so i drew stuff and i wrote out the plot and i have the npcs and so i really good idea of what i want to do there and i think it's a beautiful spiritual successor to the original game legends of valor but modernized in the ways you would expect and i even talked with a guy who used to work with gary gygax and he gave some great advice as well the second thing i'd like to do is resurrect the gold box engine which was a game engine uh for uh original dungeons and dragons games not even second edition like baldur's gate but actually first edition and i ran in the forgotten realms i'd like to update that modernize it make it retro put in some really cool mechanics with it and then put it into the pathfinder game system and embed it in the pathfinder game world because the licensing there is significantly easier and the third thing i'd like to do in that game company is actually start licensing ip in the warhammer 40k universe and run a series of games there dawn of war was really well done and it would i think there's a great market for rts's in warhammer and there's a great marketplace for things like eisenhorn but done even at a grander scale and games workshop seems to be quite amenable to a pretty permissive license if you don't go with the rebutte giliman's standard world stuff so all of that of course with gamification and microtransactions and tokenomics and so forth so anything we would do we would try to connect it to the cardonal blockchain and issue that but that's a separate company um and also experimental game mechanics so one of the reasons why we're talking to this french university is that i'd like to explore things like hyper geometry like there's a great game called hyperbolica which does that i'd highly recommend you guys look at it ai driven game develop for example event zero where you can actually interface with a terminal and talk to an intelligent agent and it can reply real time to your dialogue that is some great stuff and it'd be really cool to see we can use gpt3 for that uh and you know other cool game design concepts like variability of time variability gravity different atmospheric conditions so physics emulation but then it's connected to a magic system or connected to other such things so those experimental mechanics it would be nice to have some game r d that's done it's not necessarily connected to a particular game but it becomes a capability that can then be embedded into either the rts portfolio or let's say the warhammer 40k so i have it all there i have money set aside for it depending on how much biden takes from me uh but uh you know we'll get around to it at some point i'm also doing a lot in aquaponics i just had a great conversation with the largest aquaponics guy in puerto rico and i'll be flying to puerto rico likely in june to have a conversation and tour his whole facility and i might end up building a hundred thousand square foot aquaponics facility in wyoming depending upon market conditions and half tilapia and all this other stuff and build a power plant next to it and so forth so yeah i do a lot of that stuff on the side in addition to all the cardano stuff armenian genocide recognition yeah this is an interesting one uh you know the united states of america we did horrible things in our history nation states do there's no notion of a nation-state that's bloodless if it's old or if you have more than 10 years of history yeah probably did something to somebody during the 19th century there's there were massacres of native americans the indigenous people died of smallpox and the ones who didn't die frontier settlers came in and enslaved imprisoned they did horrible horrible things great nations have the capacity to admit that they have a past and that that past was nuanced there were glorious amazing things and there's horrors inside your past everybody who is german must live with the fact that the nazi regime existed everybody who's russian must live with the fact that stalin existed everybody who's american must live with the fact that we had slavery and that we massacred the indigenous postulations these are things that happened we're mature enough as a society to accept that and i will point out that no one alive today in america participated in those things they're all dead so when we look at the armenian genocide it occurred very very early in the 20th century there is no one in turkey alive today responsible for that so there's no notion of blame here it's not about blaming it's not about saying oh well bob is responsible and should go to jail or something they're all dead they're all gone it's more about saying what can we as a society learn from the people who came before us not just the good things but we also must explore the bad things and understand why that darkness came why human beings were capable of those things if you're unwilling to do that your society will inevitably return to that behavior because you don't build in the safeguards the checks and balances the social constructs that inhibit you from going into those particular things and this is a great example of it and this a particular genocide was actually one that hitler himself referenced as a reason why they would get away with the final solution and it's a blind spot in the world for geopolitical reasons and so i'm incredibly glad that there's more discussion about this but i don't think in isolation it makes any sense or else it's just beating up on people for no sense it has to be put into a broader context the rwandan genocide the genocide of the indigenous people the holocaust the holodomor the cambodian genocide the current genocide that's going on in western china with the youngers these are all interconnected and they're interconnected to the same thought process where one group of people decide arbitrarily or otherwise that they have the right to harm another group of people for the only crime of belonging to that particular group that dehumanization that lack of empathy that lack of sympathy it's a human pattern and there's no vaccine against this where one group of people will never do that you may think oh i'm norwegian so we'll never do that or i'm italian we'll never do that or i'm from this country swiss and we'll never do we all have the potential capacity as humans to succumb to this thought pattern and process either in the indirect way of racism and bigotry or the direct way of force or genocide it's just how far on the spectrum do you go the point of recognition of these things is the first step in finding a social construct that prevents us from going down that particular road and i'm very skeptical of any country that refuses to admit its past or embrace its past and if they try to create consequences for that then there's something fundamentally wrong with the souls of the leadership of that nation and they need to do some fact-finding and internal truths thoughts on gamestop uh it's a classic example of uh speculative surges you see this a lot in the cryptocurrency space it's not so common in the security space and uh because of these new platforms the tools to enable it are occurring and the hedge fund people and the securities people oh god what do we do we've been dealing with this stuff for 10 years in cryptocurrencies happens all the time you'll see some small cap or near dead coin like doge it'll just surge up and everybody go crazy about it for a little while then it comes collapsing down but it generally doesn't happen with real companies and that are registered with the sec and have a actual product and legacy and it happened with gamestop which caused a lot of people get very concerned i am a libertarian by heart and i don't really mind when people make financial decisions with their own money as long as they're doing so without an information as symmetry where it really pisses me off is when one side of the market knows something the other side doesn't know and they're allowed to trade on that information and they're they're directly connected to the asset for example let's say you work at a pharmaceutical company and you know that the fda is just about to give you approval so you go and call your brother and say hey uh bill uh you know uh i we're gonna give us fda approval buy the shares or conversely you know you're actually gonna get rejected by the fda so you say hell yeah bill uh short all the shares so you sell your own chairs it's called insider trading i think it's wrong but this is not a case of insider trading with game stuff it's speculative surge it's a different animal altogether and what will end up happening is go way up and it'll go down if the company can do a season equity offering or you know find some way to profit from the speculative surge then perhaps you can use it to capitalize itself to change its business model and justify its newfound valuation so sometimes just the mere attention can change the reality enough to allow people to do new and interesting things but often times it's just a blip and it goes down but i don't think in this case with a regulated financial product like gamestop where there are no in asymmetries that a regulator needs to get involved it's counterproductive and it's i don't understand what they're going to accomplish with it frederico sala he says hello from italy sir any news about hydra and nft ciao ferrico uh hydra we should have an update if not the end of this month than the next cardano 360 episode but i'll have the hydra team do something they've been building prototypes now for about a month and a half and we have a new hydra paper coming out in may i believe that's our current schedule i think they're submitting it to ccs i'll have to see the conference train for it so a lot of progress there things are looking good we've been working on nf3 marketplaces we've done a lot of really cool pioneering work uh with nfts we've had so many people reach out to us to discuss nfts uh and the possibilities from wolf ram to a lot of celebrities so i'll have some i'll have some more for you in a bit but um we should be able to bring nfts sooner than you think and uh but i'm not going to jump that announcement do you ever miss your time working at uh ethereum no absolutely i was only there for six years uh six months and it was miserable the six months it was so stressful there was a business side a tech side and i was in the middle and uh [ __ ] rolls downhill and everything rolled down on me and then after that got kicked out lots of books got wrote about how horrible of a human being i am and all the bad personality characteristics i have apparently i'm the worst person alive but somehow i was able to start accompanying 300 people and bill cardano i must be total accident let's just fall in my lap um there there's just some stuff there that i've moved on from but they don't seem to have the capacity to do so and uh i didn't really gain a lot in fact if i get a do-over i never would have joined the ethereum project i would have gone and done something else and my life would be a lot easier in this space so i know i don't i don't miss my time one bit there's also this i don't know like ethereum arrogance we interview a lot of people in the space we notice if people are like hardcore in the ethereum space when uh when they interview for our company or we're trying to do a project or something with them there's this attitude like why are you how do you have the audacity to talk to me you know i'm so special just look at mike novogratz yes you will talk to me on monday just so much of that from that side of space as if their [ __ ] doesn't stink meanwhile there's so many problems there and very little intellectual honesty about the practicality of resolving those problems i mean sure we've had some delays in our road map timelines i'll be the first to admit that and i'm the first to blame for that i was overly optimistic on certain things but they weren't scientific delays it wasn't like we were saying this is solvable and it's going to be solved by this date and there wasn't even an approach guys we had the aura boris genesis paper published and peer-reviewed in 2018. a lot of the pluto stuff a 1.0 language had we had faster engineering we could have brought it to market in 2019. it's just the engineering was the bottleneck and it was very difficult in practice to implement this stuff the ethereum side of the world they're saying oh everything's gonna be great optimistic roll-ups and plasma states are saying this stuff without a paper without peer review without a working prototype and then giving prognostications of a timeline and utility and solving all the problems so i to institutionalize that for a whole ecosystem and do that year after year after year after year without improvement it just doesn't feel right with me so i i don't fit into that mold and into that culture we work much better with the rigorous coins like the harmony ones or the algorithms or the avalanches even the taisos the community doesn't like me very much because i criticize arthur breitman but i at least can read their stuff and understand it and camel's a great language and there are great companies in that ecosystem like nomadic labs so forth so that makes sense to me but i i don't understand the ethereum world i never will and i also don't understand the ico mania i don't understand the high gas fees all of this stuff the unrealistic valuations the high defy prices all these things it it doesn't make sense to me do you still own eth i've never owned any the first time i got any ether in my entire life was after i sold those tweets so i have a little bit of ether from those but that's the first time i ever got an ether i never got my pre mine it was 293 000 easier and i gave it away i didn't receive it charles what do you do when you have to make a difficult decision uh so first off it depends on the context of the difficult decision is it personal is it economic is it spiritual i mean where does it sit in that and there's different tool bags that you have to make that decision so if it's business related commercial economic there you're saying okay first off uh is this existential or not there's a flow chart there so existential means i screwed up will the company go out of business or will cause so much damage and harm that it's hard to come back from if it's existential then you say okay what do i need to know to even approach this problem what are similar types of problems what are similar types of decisions have i made these types of decisions in the past has anybody made these types of decisions in the past what are the inputs and what tools do i have to heuristically examine those inputs and am i making this with the total view am i making this with an incomplete view also what is my time horizon do i have to make the decision now can i bat it off a little bit and is this a collective decision or is this not a collective decision if it's non-existential this is value at risk and you say can i afford to lose this money if i can i don't really lose too much sweat if we get it wrong it's like lending money to people people often ask you lend money to family i say i'll only do that if i can lose the money and not regret it so they come and say i need a loan i say okay is it the case that i could just throw this money in the storm drain and i would go about my life no problem at all if that's the case lend money to people if that's not never lend money to family because it really screws up your relationship otherwise okay so non-existential is there so that's commercial and that's a that's an art there's actually a cool problem-solving course on coursera that kind of talks about these things you build decision trees and there's all these tools and techniques to think around and handle these things and quantify and when you think about risk you have high risk high certainty low risk high certainty low certainty high risk and low risk low certainty these types of things and then the other part of the three-dimensional spectrum is seriousness so high risk high certainty and existential seriousness versus non-existential so you know all risk lives in these things then when you look at personal decisions that's really about your value system that you have are you virtue ethics are you guided by religion and the ontological notion are you kind of like one of those frou-frou spiritual consequentialists and everything's the same but you can't make difficult decisions in life unless you have the north star of a value system to get you through difficult decisions in life so if you're having trouble making interpersonal decisions that means that you're having trouble with your value system because a value system comes within it a machine work framework to evaluate things and make hard choices stay with the wife leave the wife you know what to do with the kids uh what to do with this uh what to do with parents and so forth uh everybody has a family even orphans they find one and everybody has family members friends and other people who do things that sometimes are just crazy and stupid and counterproductive and you just wonder why i people in my social circles have had drug addictions and other such things and you just think why are you so self-destructive in some cases you have cut people out of your life and these are difficult and that make you sad to make the decision but they haven't been particularly hard in that i had to sit down and stress for weeks and weeks and weeks and agonize because i have a value system that allows me to kind of think about the whole thing and i have red lines in life and i say okay if you cross that red line it's over as nice as it could be you've crossed a red line we can't come back from that so it is what it is and so that's how you make a difficult decision so the better job you do at building your value system and your ability to analyze the world around you in fact that's what ethics used to be it was how to decide how to live life instead of is something right or wrong uh in it's more of a practical framework the better job you'll do navigating things then on the spiritual side that's that's really an a a situation of how do you reconcile with death we all are going to die every single one of the 3056 people listening to this podcast is going to die at some point maybe tomorrow maybe 100 years from now okay but we all die life is finite there's a beginning a middle and an end and your spiritual framework is how you deal with that inevitability ernest becker wrote a great book called the denial of death and it talked around how human beings deal with this what we tend to do is construct immortality cults so we invent some notion that allows us to cognitively reconcile that we are finite and we will cease to exist at some point so that could be that you go to some magic afterlife that can be that you reincarnate and the cycle begins again that can be that um some simulacrum of you spiritually will embed itself into the the earth spirit and everybody's there whatever that structure might be or it could be rationalism where you you mentally accept that you're going to die you go through a series of exercises almost like a bushido-like exercise and you come out the other side accepting that reality and you're at peace and comfortable with the finiteness of life spiritual decisions are about the reconciliation of that because if the immortality cult interferes with the way you're living your life what you're doing is the life today is interfering with the life of tomorrow either in a finite sense or an eternal sense and then that creates a schism in people so imagine if you have a value system that says being gay is bad and you're gay that's an example of an internal conflict so your value system is telling you if you do this it's gonna put you in eternal damnation but then that's what you want to do with your life it's like built in okay so how do you reconcile that how do you separate that what often happens and i'd argue it's the right thing to do is change the value system because you can't change the other one everybody who tries lives a pretty miserable life so that's the other side of it is is creating a connection to a as a spiritual system that allows you to reconcile with the finiteness of life and there therein lies uh perhaps the most unexamined part we usually pick our careers and nobody complains about that we pick our families in some cases like we pick who to marry and who to date these things we usually inherit our spiritual system so if you're a muslim it's probably because your parents are muslim if you're christian it's probably because your parents are christian not always people convert and people change especially when they do that second thing you may marry and convert to judaism ivanka trump did that you know there's all kinds of things that you can do usually you inherit a big chunk of your spirituality from those who came before you so given that that's inherited and deeply ingrained into your social networks to change your value system so that it can reconcile with how you desire to live the rest of your life can be catastrophic some people get excommunicated from their families happens all the time you know like warm and extremists in utah or something or you know amish or something if you change your system you can no longer even be a member of your society and that's probably the most difficult decision that anybody can make a life of consensus or a life of happiness but ultimately i'd argue the life of happiness is superior good question yeah this is the larry david i converted to judaism so i can make jewish jokes remember jews never die they just slowly depreciate and gradually get written off hi charles have you looked into moving puerto rico for the zero percent capital gains tax exemption after americans under act 60. i'm making a move from denver in june and becoming a blockchain dev i've met a lot of people who've done that brock pierce has done it uh michael turpin's done it it's a common little tax evasion scam in the uh cryptocurrency space it works quite well for people to figure it out you have to stay in puerto rico for half the year and they measure that very closely and a lot of stuff you have to do to get the exemption and it's it's difficult but it for the people who have made it work they've saved a lot on taxes uh here's what i do i just make more money i love colorado i love wyoming rough and rugged wyoming and warm and sunny colorado and this is where i'm going to be and this is where i'm going to die it's my home so if tax rates go up i'll just make more money to offset it and i'll have the difference i you know it's a little different than california and a lot of people were born in california leaving california if it was just a cost of living thing you can always find a way to justify it it's now a liberties and safety thing the streets are filled with crime and homeless and infrastructure is falling apart people get robbed all the time a friend lived in san francisco his car's been broken into 19 times in two years 19 times in two years he reported it every single time to the police they didn't do anything about it one case he had a video of it because he started he had a dash cam and all these other things has the guy's face and everything they don't care they won't do anything at all about it so he left he's now in austin so you know that's a little different colorado we don't have that problem yet although we're moving in that direction because the californians are coming but wyoming you get shot i like wyoming do you think andreas antonopoulos will write a breaking cardano book well we asked him to write a mastering card out i'd pay the guy money too uh we're probably gonna have jim caldwell do that at university of wyoming in the uh blockchain tech lab that we have there i'm actually having dinner with president university of wyoming here a little bit out as seidel and it's going to be one of many topics we talk about i love that university it's very easy to go to and talk to oh this is an interesting one hi charles i'm driving but happy to listen to you live well thank you chef for change are you looking into 3d printed homes i actually have had these discussions before with 3d fabricators uh not only homes but also mechanization so we talk a lot with many african agricultural ministries and one of their biggest problems is it's not hard to get mechanization there like i can buy a massey ferguson or a john deere tractor and ship it to ethiopia or mozambique or somewhere but then it's the supply chain and the maintenance that's a brutal like how you fix that how you train people to fix that do you have to ship the tractor to italy or something to get it taken care of so that's no good so there's been a lot of discussion of of local fabrication where you have 3d printers that can actually build the tractor and you can hand assemble it modules and then you use biofuels to power it if something breaks there's a process to restore it it's closely related to 3d fabrication of homes especially when you start talking about these complex structures that said it's not something i'm doing at the moment but i've i've had these conversations and there's some people just really study those conversations they think about them and uh it'd be super cool in my 40s to collaborate with them please coin burn so we have our first member of the paint chip brigade today coin burn so whose coins am i going to burn you tell me that yours i'll give you a burn address there you go do you play minecraft charles hoskinson not only i play minecraft i was an alpha tester way back in the day when you could message notch before you got big and rich you'd find a buggy email i'm gonna email you back it was fun minecraft is a great game i even downloaded some of those mods i remember version 1.2.5 i had a gun mod where you had a like a flintlock uh gun you had to kill the creepers to collect gunpowder and then you could make bullets and shoot people it was a great game and flying structures you could do that as well thoughts on wyoming recognizing dao as llc i actually think a dow combined with a cayman star trust is a phenomenal model and it's something we are looking into for the dcf and i think we can get there do you meditate yes i do ah actually i have something on me let me show you guys so i was wearing this on one of my amas or a message and this is an apollo neural sport right let me make sure i have the title right apolo neural science maybe i'm just going to get the website here yeah apollo neuro there we go and one of the people from the company actually emailed me and said they're cardano fans so this is a device that helps with something called heart rate variability uh so hiring variability is just one of those curious things and i won't get into it but there's a lot of great science about it and it helps you with relaxation it can help you go to sleep it can help you live longer and be calmer uh and how it works is you put it on your wrist you push a button and it runs for 30 minutes and there you go and you can use it every day if you want to there's really no side effects and actually it does work there's a ton of science behind it and i think apollo makes a great product and i carry it my pocket with me and i use it every day so i meditate the call map is great uh emotive not emotive but muse the muse 2 is a headset that i tend to use and i'm actually looking at a lot of great technology in the bci space but heart rate variability is another cool thing to do that there's a even bigger device called the heart math that does things that's that's interesting too but the apollo is pretty cool to buy because it's just so damn easy to use headspace is another great app that's true there's some great apps out there will a tallow prism include capabilities biometrics to secure private keys you don't want to use biometrics to secure private keys because everything you do leaves biometrics behind this right here is the biometric for fingerprints i did that now you guys have my fingerprint okay hackers are very clever and the same for ir scans and face scans and things like that uh so biometrics are not secure as a mechanism for encryption or a mechanism for secrecy it's the username and you combine that with something else either something you have like a ub key or a pin code generator like google authenticator uh or cac card or whatever or you combine it with something you know like a pin code and generally there's all kinds of schemes that you come up with where you can make that reasonably secure for most applications for the secrecy of a private key shielding is the standard we use a password to shield that's hardened and i like the idea of a password with some notion of biometrics with some pin code there's ways to make that secure but ultimately the gold standard is hardware and for security so a uv key or something like that there's even a biometric scanner there was a cell phone that lg made that would scan the vasculature of your hand and uh it would uh it would actually create a unique identity identification from your hand so you'd hold your hand up to the screen and it would scan the veins and it would know the uh it wouldn't create a unique fingerprint from that yubikey for deadly spending passwords it's a high priority for me a hardware enforced security and i would love to have that uh where it actually uh refreshes and it re-encrypts uh or something like that so we've had some discussions you can use the static password option and a uv key for the long press and you can reconfigure it to do that so i think that's a good thing to do okay is a hardware wallet necessary if you're serious about crypto at some point in the value chain you should get a hardware wallet they're not expensive and they massively improve the overall security uh and they they're not the only component but adopting that alone uh enormously reduces your risk of theft so highly highly recommend it charles why are we told that people like george washington need to be recognized for the good things he did and ignore the bad i don't think i say that or any reasonable person says that he's a nuanced person and you talk about the nuances but the problem is when we have this movement of statute burners what they do is they say because he did something bad we need to remove everything named after him change all the names the states never mention him again and view him as some sort of compromised evil person washington was a great man and he was a great man because there were moments in history where he could have made a decision to benefit himself and he passed on that and as a consequence he allowed a great nation to exist now yes he did some bad things he was inadvertently responsible for part of the french and indian war mount verton wasn't exactly a paradise there were certain things in his life which were not so good but when you actually look at the totality of all of it he had a choice to become the king of this country or its first president and because he made the choice to become its first president it allowed us to exist in the way we are today for better or for worse if he became a king we would have just had one monarchy after another monarchy and a lot of great evils would have been done and the american experiment would have never happened the way it happened and i would argue would be a much worse nation than we are today so yeah by all means read ron chernow's book on washington there's dozens of great books that are that cover all the nuances and talk about all the things and speculate did he have an affair with sally fairfax or not and what was his real relationship with his brother lawrence and how did lawrence dying of tuberculosis alter and change him and the death of his children and his inability to have his own children etc etc his shame of not learning french and these things and they're very worthwhile to study the same for ulysses s grant and the same for many of the other icons of americana lincoln wasn't a saint either mother died milk sick in 1818 um uh any dates on yellow and formal verification yeah we'll get into a monthly update train with uh rv on that the alpha frontier program's churning away and there's about a six month work book of work on yellow for the moment and we'll just keep adding to it haha got a k80 shotgun in that safe don't you uh well i'd be a benelli man if i had a shotgun an m4 come on that's the self-defense shotgun you rotate bird shot buckshot perk chop buckshot slug uh big fan charles well miss mccain i'm a big fan too thank you so much for joining the cardano ecosystem what are your opinions on anarchism you should watch the uh podcast with lex friedman and uh michael malus he probably represents that philosophy better than anybody else survival of the fittest and strongest is not exactly the ideal governance structure why is wolfram better for cardano than chain link because wolfram is the arrakis of the oracle world he who controls the spice controls the universe and what stephen has done is he controls the data so he who controls the data controls the universe they also have a beautiful language called wolf ram that makes all that data data computable yeah yeah i think you guys would like the dune reference what's the oldest thing you own i have a lot of artifacts but the oldest thing that i own is a mosasaur jaw it's tens of millions of years old 2 what book would you highly suggest to read won't we start from first principles jv start with mortimer atlers how to read a book and good old nick says tell us about your farm well nick you're just going to have to come out and see it it's nick nafak he's one of the guys who works on commercial strategy with io global and one of the brightest guys i've ever met i love reading his messages and he has some cool people and jp says thank you for all your hard work well jp thank you for being a fan uh [Music] are you more excited for diablo 2 resurrected or diablo 4 diablo 2 resurrected because it's a real game blizzard hasn't made a real game in a long time but i'm going to bring the old band back together all the people i was friends with when i was 12 years old 15 years old and we're gonna we're gonna play diablo 2. i got everything set up like um i got an hp omen that i retrofitted i got the other super computer we're we're ready to go and i'll be the druid brother is going to be the necromancer got a friend who's going to be the paladin another friend is going to be the barbarian that's a party right there yo with my infinite free time and [Music] how are your thoughts on the covet agenda new world order all this stuff uh first i'm not a believer in the new world order i don't think governments are that competent to manage things at that level with that degree of secrecy that said i am a firm believer that politicians subscribe to the philosophy of let no crisis go to waste uh personally from the preponderance of all the evidence i believe that covet is likely a pathogen that was archived at a lab in wuhan and one of the lab techs got infected from it probably with a mild infection due to a lack of poor safety standards because that lab was notorious for it and he went for something to eat at the wet market and spread it to people there which is why the initial chinese response was so secretive and closed and it was an attempt to cover something up the who was the little lap dog of china and they basically buried it under a rug then it got out of hand it spread quickly and governments were terrified of a spanish flu style pandemic there's 17 years of history in china with coronavirus since the original coronal virus epidemic and there had been a huge amount of research gain and function research and other things that were done in those circles that was one of the few places in the world to study a disease like that it's inconceivable to me that this was just a random occurrence but it is what it is whether it was escaped from a lab or it is a zoonotic infection the end result is the same it's spread like wildfire throughout the world and for a certain group of people the mortality rate is one to five percent and for most of us it's not and as a consequence because that certain group was large enough millions of people have died it's a real disease and it really does a lot of harm to certain people as many of you know my brother's a physician and he had to treat this firsthand in gillette wyoming and if you look at x-rays of people who contracted corona fires from the initial infection to where they're at months later the lungs still look the same like a bomb went off in them it was horrible for a lot of people many people listening know someone who's died or been seriously impacted as a consequence of covet and long covet is a thing and it's it's like the gulf war syndrome of my generation now what governments have done is despite the fact that today now more than a year into this we have great treatments we understand things like the use of ivermectin and vitamin d can certainly be beneficial there's monoclonal antibodies there are vaccines that are more than 90 percent effective and easy to distribute the united states 33 percent of the population vaccinated they're pretending as if this is still november of 2019 and this is a unknown pathogen and it's novel and it could be as damaging as 10 of the population and what they're doing is they're using that excuse to control people and make people afraid i went to the office today an older person walked by me i'm vaccinated that older person's vaccinated he's wearing a mask i'm walking to the office outside and he purposely moves away from me as if i'm an infectious vector to harm him if your vaccinated your chance of death is one in one million that's with all the data we have 77.6 million americans about 71 deaths that's from the cdc and the data is holding with all of this there are breakthrough cases there was 5 800 breakthrough cases out of the 77 million that were vaccinated which is extraordinary it's a very low amount very few people get hospitalized or die and usually there's something more to the story like they have cancer and they've gotten it or serious comorbidity like heart disease and other things and they die with covet but it wasn't the primary cause of death but the cdc records that nonetheless and yes the vaccines are holding strong against the variants israel has been exposed to south africa variance been exposed to the uk variant and from the datasets we have there they are still protective not perfectly protective you might get a mild doing this but let's be clear here if everybody was vaccinating the world at the beginning of this pandemic there would be no pandemic just that simple here's my problem with policy colorado wyoming colorado worst thing in the world restaurants 50 capacity i was at bojo's pizza here in longmont i walk on in and the restaurant's damn near empty and they say oh i'm sorry we can't have too many people because capacity and i say okay well when's the next table gonna be available about 20 minutes and i said okay and i go to sit in the corner the empty corner there's no one there oh you can't wait outside you have to wait outside in the wind in the snow and i'm vaccinated that's not sensible policy then you go up to cheyenne wyoming not too far away and the waitresses and waiters aren't wearing masks everybody's just hanging out no social distancing i'm sorry you can't have a situation where there's freedom of movement between a quarantined zone and a non-quarantined zone and expect the quarantine zone to be effective it doesn't work either you have a total lockdown like an island does like new zealand or taiwan or you don't if you can't achieve that you need different policy and what they're basically saying is everybody needs to be tested everybody's freedom of movement needs to be restricted we need to track everybody everybody needs to be vaccinated but the vaccines don't matter and we'll never get out of it because here's the thing india brazil the developing world they will not get vaccinated at a high enough level this year or next year variants occur eventually they become strains eventually they escape the vaccines one person started this global pandemic either a lab tech or a farmer with a zoonotic infection doesn't really matter one person did it and it spread one person with a mutant strain that escapes the vaccines can restart the whole thing and if that means the clock is reset we have to wait another year for vaccines another year to build a billion vaccines and vaccinate everybody that means this never ends ever it's here forever we're stuck with it and we're under a permanent lockdown where our freedom of movements are restricted vaccine passports will create a two-class citizenship and you're basically told lie after lie after lie after lie after lie by your government and then people are brainwashed into supporting it they say how dare you fight that you're not a doctor and then when a doctor speaks up well you're not a real doctor only the doctors who work for the government are real doctors all other physicians don't know what they're talking about if they oppose the orthodoxy and then you ask for a reasonable goal post you say okay well what's the vaccination rate before we get back to normal can't tell you okay so we don't have goal posts and we're under this and i think it's going to create a political revolution at some point people get so tired of it they'll say that's it we're done either they'll just stop complying altogether or they'll vote until they get a set of politicians that remove these lockdowns because the alternative is medical totalitarianism that's where we're currently at and under and the really sad thing is that a sensible approach could be adopted to solve this these vaccines can be updated rapidly that's the miracle of mrna and these other platforms and with good genomic surveillance good molecular biology good r d every year we can have a better vaccine than one before and every year they get more and more effective and there's less and less variations of the disease that are going to be problematic for us the mainstream people if they contract coronavirus now i say on average it's not a problem for them there are certain groups that is and certain people in the mainstream that it is and you can always find an example of a person who has a bad outcome yes there is the 19 year old girl who died from it but on average the vast majority of people who can track coronavirus in the mainstream are okay the people who wouldn't be make sure you have a 90 vaccination rate there then you reopen society because the other group of people it's if they have free access to a vaccine it's a personal decision they make and the people who are vaccinating the at-risk group if they get exposed it's a one in a million chance for them to die i'm sorry it's not a serious concern anymore for them they don't have to behave like society is bad and over time you get a higher and higher natural immunity because you combine the covert vaccine with the influenza vaccine and we get back to work and like every other pandemic the spanish flu and the others it'll burn out over time the other thing is every developed government should mandate with the uh with the vaccine companies a buy one get one free program saying we will only purchase a vaccine if you donate a vaccine to the developing world if you just look at the european union canada in the united states that would be about three billion doses of free vaccines for the developing world which is enough cover india and the entire continent of africa why it's avarice otherwise why not do it so there's just not the political will to solve it there's a lot of incompetence i'm sorry you can't tell me you're trusting science when a person alone on a beach at six o'clock in the afternoon gets a ticket for sitting alone on the beach but then that same person can walk down the beach to a resort in hawaii and go into a densely packed pool with lots of tourists closely looking at each other coughing in each other talking to each other but that's a permitted activity you can't do this to people you can't have these inconsistencies you can't have the lies you can't say vitamin d does nothing vitamin i would argue that a vitamin d mandate would save more lives than a mask mandate with the evidence we have available i'll take that bet 10 times out of 10 times and i'll probably be right with it but no we don't care about it not only we have to wear it double mask triple mask quadruple mask and does anybody know how to wear them correctly they reuse them all the time it's not fitted to their faces what about facial hair there's a reason why when you go through mop training in the military you have to shave okay because you need a proper seal with a mask if you expect them to work properly i'm sorry there's just no truth and honesty to what's happening right now and how things are working from the inconsistencies of quarantined zones to arbitrary policies to the fact that you're trying to tell people to get vaccinated but you provide them no incentive for it the intellectual dishonesty to the media of sensationalizing everything fear porn fear porn fear porn fear porn fear porn fear porn again and again and again and again and again vaccines work then why the hell are you telling us about blood clots one in a million for blood clots one in a million but let's make that the story so less people get vaccinated what are you doing honestly it's it's like what do you want i don't get it i don't understand it what's the agenda it's just insanity it's all madness absolute madness and i i'm just done with it i'm so frustrated i'm i'm worn out it's one of the reasons i bought the damn ranch in wyoming i'm just getting reticent to travel or to interact and i'm just tired of the double speak i'm tired of the just madness of all is the harm it's done to people there is a cost to making people fear each other we are humans we need physical contact we touch each other this is part of the human experience every culture every tribe every religious ritual involves human touch at some point in the fashion a hug a kiss something and when you create a situation where we have to view each other as threats to each other's existence vectors of disease and we're indoctrinating children this way in school who really don't suffer ill consequences to this despite all the propaganda that keeps being pushed out you are creating a society that is is messed up in the head it's broken it doesn't work it doesn't fit back together and it becomes a lot easier to control people and harm people so i think that there isn't some guiding hand about it but i do think that there's certain groups of politicians that are definitely taking advantage of this for social change in a direction that they want to go and they have not once been honest with us in any sense of the word this is a public health issue it's not a medical problem it's a public health issue you solve that with a different toolbox then you solve a medical issue with a person with cancer or a patient with tuberculosis or something like that you cease being a doctor thing it's an epidemiological thing it's an economic thing it's a social thing public health deals with acceptable risk we accept the risk of influenza every year as a society since i was born and we never took any of these measures for it somehow that's acceptable covet apparently is not no one has the courage to tell us where that spectrum is and at what point do we cross the threshold from one to the other and this is not exactly the first pandemic mankind is dealt with read history look at the black death look at what that did look at how many people died in 1348. look at how horrific a third of the population sometimes a half or more of the population of a city look at smallpox some people believe 9 out of 10 indigenous members of the united states died from smallpox over a 200 year period a reduction from 40 to 60 million native americans to 4 to 6 million that's how bad that was don't tell me that something that for most of us is .3 untreated no vaccine that that is morally equivalent and should require a total retooling of all society and then i read articles on bloomberg saying this is the new normal i will speak out and fight against this every day until i'm de-platformed and silenced and exiled and then i'll go to my ranch in wyoming and be a grumpy old man but i think you should too and if enough of us do it then it doesn't become the new moral and we get back to normal and it's okay will people die yes that's the nature of life and that's the nature of society and you accept that you get in your battery-powered car you just murdered somebody because where do the raw materials for that battery in your battery-powered car come from and do you think that there's not some slave labor somewhere in that supply chain some child that doesn't actually get to be a child because he's working at 11 years old in a mine somewhere in africa or in europe excuse me in asia oh my god you should look into that before you judge think about it there are so many things from the textiles on your shirt the die that goes into that how much cancer do you think the textile business has brought to the poorest people in the world as you wear your colorful shirt your colorful dress don't [ __ ] lecture me about me not caring and having empathy and being self-centered and selfish i want to live in a society where we have empathy for each other and care about each other hug each other love each other i don't want to live in a society where i have to cover myself in ppe every [ __ ] day and old people stay away from me even though i'm vaccinated i don't want to live in a society where a medical dictatorship tells me for my own good arbitrary things that make no sense at all and don't pass any standard of science and that's the society i'm in today i accepted it until vaccines came now they're here now a third of my country is vaccinated and yet no one has the courage to step and say we vaccinated enough and we're in a position where we're okay herd immunity will never come because strains and variants will come from the developing world every year so there is no goal post of 70 or 80 look at australia they're already pre-chewing it they said even after we vaccinate 70 percent of the population we might not reopen our borders wake the [ __ ] up think about it don't let people have control over your life and over you just don't do it and if you let them do it enough and they'll never give it back ever uh you ever gonna climb that mountain in ethiopia ah yeah that was um uh it was a a buna a yamada go something like that i forget the exact way of pronouncing it it's in the gray region in northern ethiopia it's actually a church that's 1500 years old and it's uh really amazing it's built into this cliff that's about 600 meters high and you have to climb for about two hours barefoot and even scale walls uh to get to it and then the final part of the climb is there's a ledge that's only 50 centimeters wide and if you fall off you fall 600 meters to your death and you have to kind of crawl the ledge to get into the church and the curator of the church in ethiopia he's been doing that for 47 years and did the climb every single day up and down climbing down during the night time there are some amazing stories in ethiopia and it's uh deeply connected to christian culture church there was formed for 500 a.d in general ethiopia is one of my favorite places in the world there's it's an ancient country with a long tradition a lot of history and just amazing people deeply religious people they'll take quite a bit of time some of them will walk days or weeks barefoot just to get to a holy site for christmas is uh come on guys give me some good questions well just nothing good i guess this is where we'll cut it so like all my amas let's get to the next part of the show and that part of the show is we'll go ahead and share the screen kiva the entire screen boom wow there we go okay so for you new people kiva is a micro finance site and basically allows you to make loans so i'm gonna go ahead and stop sharing to login and after i've logged in see your sign in to kiva sign in with my google i log in we're going to go ahead and lend out so first off we'll take a look at my portfolio so we'll share the screen again sharing screen okay so let's see how the loan portfolio is doing right now a dozora and so we have togo we have senegal cambodia mexico rosa and kenya and in peru and look at that all of them except for the senegal are paying back but i the senegal was recently so i think it'll be a little while for that but that's not bad that's pretty cool okay so let's go ahead uh take a look who we're gonna get to uh philippines and my assistant sometimes picks out people for me so aha all right this is the gal and let's read her story annalisa is 43 years old she's married and has five children two her children in school she raises pigs in the philippines and has been in business for eight years she will use the loan to buy piglets sacks of feed and supplies to raise her pigs she successfully repaid her previous loan and now is requested new 13 000 pesos loan through the nwtf to further build her business in the future she would like to save enough money to send her children to college okay that's exciting well let's finish this out proceed to check out okay we always do the donation kiva complete order and there we go she now has the loan and we'll go and take a look at the portfolio she's 100 funded ready to go all right annalisa in the philippines i wish you well i hope everything works well one day we shall do this on cardano hopefully soon and it's going to be a lot of fun and hopefully it'll be an investment right now these loans are charity so the best case scenario is i get my money back but if they don't repay i don't but micro finance where you can actually make a return it will become part of my company's treasury management and we'll allocate a percentage of the overall cash the company has to microfinance loans and if we do it right we can actually get a better return than most bonds in that respect and if we can do that other companies shall do that and the result billions of dollars of direct foreign investment into some of the people who need most people who need it so i'm very excited about that prospect thank you guys so much for coming to my ama it's a great way to end the day i'll see you all tomorrow cheers
